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Thread: Hollywood: I HAVE A QUESTION?

  1. #11
    Hollywood
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    Hollywood: Parker, real easy answer

    > Hollywood,

    > You seem like a pretty sharp guy and you're
    > betting some serious coin. So why don't you
    > stop playing the crappy games in AC and do
    > weekend getaways to Tunica or Las Vegas?

    > At your betting level you'd be full RFB in
    > most casinos, and they would probably pick
    > up at least part of your airfare as well.

    > Best of all, you'd actually get to play some
    > really good games.

    I HATE TO FLY

  2. #12
    Hollywood
    Guest

    Hollywood: Thank you Don *NM*


  3. #13
    Hollywood
    Guest

    Hollywood: Mister, what is the advantage

    > Dear Hollywood
    > Gave you considered spreading to two hands
    > ANYTIME your bet is MORE than one unit?.

    in that?

    I have not even considered it.

    Are you saying when my count goes to where I would normally put up 2 units for the first time, I should now bet 2 hands of 2 units?

    Or are you saying that when the count goes to minus 1 which is where I normally put up 4 units that I should instead go to two hands of 2 units?
    I'm just not certain of what your suggesting.

    Thanks

    Hollywood

  4. #14
    Mister M
    Guest

    Mister M: Re: Mister, what is the advantage

    > Are you saying when my count goes to where I
    > would normally put up 2 units for the first
    > time, I should now bet 2 hands of 2 units?

    Instead of betting 2 units on one postion, spread to 1 unit each on two positions when a 2 unit bet is called for.This applies ANY time your bet is more than 1 unit.
    Example count calls for 6 unit bet.Play 2 positions of 3 each.
    Run a sim playing with the examples and then compare your current method.The scores have increased!.

  5. #15
    Hollywood
    Guest

    Hollywood: Re: Mister, what is the advantage

    > Instead of betting 2 units on one postion,
    > spread to 1 unit each on two positions when
    > a 2 unit bet is called for.This applies ANY
    > time your bet is more than 1 unit.
    > Example count calls for 6 unit bet.Play 2
    > positions of 3 each.
    > Run a sim playing with the examples and then
    > compare your current method.The scores have
    > increased!.

    Thank you, I will certainly look into this.

    Hollywood

  6. #16
    Don Schlesinger
    Guest

    Don Schlesinger: Re: Mister, what is the advantage

    > Instead of betting 2 units on one postion,
    > spread to 1 unit each on two positions when
    > a 2 unit bet is called for.This applies ANY
    > time your bet is more than 1 unit.
    > Example count calls for 6 unit bet.Play 2
    > positions of 3 each.
    > Run a sim playing with the examples and then
    > compare your current method.The scores have
    > increased!

    Let's be careful here. If you use the SAME unit size and spread to two hands of one-half unit each, your EV remains the same, but your variance is less for the two hands than doublke that of one hand, so SCORE will increase if you CHANGE your unit size for the two hands. You can't expect to actually win more, per unit of time, by betting the same amount as on one hand, while using up more cards.

    On the other hand (pun intended!), if you usually bet $100 on a hand and then increase to two hands of $150, you increase your EV (unless playing alone), increase your variance, but leave ROR the same, which some people (including yours truly) find desirable.

    Don

  7. #17
    Parker
    Guest

    Parker: Um, okay

    > I HATE TO FLY

    I must confess that that is one explanation that never even crossed my mind.

    I used to be uncomfortable flying. Then I got a job with a major corporation that required constant air travel.

    Now, the only feeling of any sort that I have about flying is that it boring. Fortunately, I am one of those people who can fall asleep anywhere.

    Unfortunately (at least for those seated near me) I snore. :-)

  8. #18
    Kim Lee
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    Kim Lee: Yes

    Note the object is not to maximize SCORE, it is to maximize certainty equivalent. Fortunately your hand spreading approach does both. Hollywood needs to decide how much he is willing to risk for each truecount (.5% advantage). Let's suppose he is willing to risk $200 per true count. Then he should bet $100 at truecounts of +1, $200 at +2, $400 at +3, ... $1000 at +6. He should bet 2 spots of 75% (150% total) whenever the truecount is greater than +1 and there are other players.

  9. #19
    Mister M
    Guest

    Mister M: Re: Yes

    Dear Kim
    I generally do play two hands whenever a bet of more than one unit is called for,i.e the ramp cas for a 6 unit bet,i would play two positions of three units each or occasionally split the amount to have 4 and 2.What do you think?.

  10. #20
    Don Schlesinger
    Guest

    Don Schlesinger: Re: Yes

    > Dear Kim
    > I generally do play two hands whenever a bet
    > of more than one unit is called for,i.e the
    > ramp cas for a 6 unit bet,i would play two
    > positions of three units each or
    > occasionally split the amount to have 4 and
    > 2.What do you think?.

    You need to bet MORE on the two hands combined than what you would on one alone. That's what we're trying to explain. Otherwise, you're just using up cards for no increase in EV.

    One hand of $100 = two hands of $75. Get it?

    Don

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