Don's
Domain Chat: Lance Humble


Don's Domain Chat
Lance Humble



Lance Humble, author of The World's Greatest Blackjack Book


September 12, 2004




Sun Sep 12 19:58:32
2004:
lance [0/]
Login:

Sun Sep 12 20:00:56 2004:

lance : Lance here. Looking forward
to chatting. Betting two Canadian harness tracks at the same time.
May be a little distracted. You'll forgive me, won't you?
Thanks.

Sun Sep 12
20:11:11 2004:

Viktor [0/] Login:

Sun Sep 12 20:11:32 2004:

Viktor : Hey
Lance!

Sun Sep 12
20:12:37 2004:

lance : Hi Viktor. Sorry I didn't have more
time to chat when I was in your town.

Sun Sep 12 20:13:27
2004:
Viktor
: That's OK.

Sun Sep 12 20:16:03 2004:

Viktor : It's obvious your students
love you.

Sun Sep 12 20:17:10 2004:

Bettie [0/] Login:

Sun Sep 12 20:17:15 2004:

lance : Yes, they
love me. I have hundreds of very positive evaluations and they seem
to get better every year.

Sun Sep 12 20:18:23 2004:

DonS [0/] Login:

Sun Sep 12 20:18:34 2004:

Viktor : Hey
Don!

Sun Sep 12
20:18:41 2004:

DonS : Hi!

Sun Sep 12 20:19:09 2004:

DonS : Hi, Lance.
How have you been?

Sun Sep 12 20:19:45 2004:

lance : Don, what's new with you?
Have those hurricanes hit New York yet? I'm great.

Sun Sep 12 20:20:10
2004:
DonS [0/]
Msg:From the aftermath of Frances, we had 6 inches of rain last
weekend.

Sun Sep 12 20:20:30 2004:

DonS [0/]Msg:I'm afraid more of the same will happen
next weekend, once the remnants of Ivan make it up here.


Sun Sep 12
20:21:29 2004:

Viktor : The latest models show Ivan
swinging out pretty wide:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ftp/graphics...F/061453W5.gif


Sun Sep 12
20:22:03 2004:

DonS : Just spoke to my friend who has
evacuated Port Charlotte. He's relieved, to say the least. Charley
devastated the whole region.

Sun Sep 12 20:22:19 2004:

lance : It was 80 degrees up here
today.

Sun Sep 12
20:22:31 2004:

DonS : Wow! Tropical!

Sun Sep 12 20:22:47 2004:

DonS : Lance, do
you still handicap hockey and the trotters?

Sun Sep 12 20:23:27 2004:

Ouchez [0/] Login:

Sun Sep 12 20:23:54
2004:
Ouchez
: Hi all.

Sun Sep 12
20:24:16 2004:

Viktor : Hello Ouchez!

Sun Sep 12 20:24:24 2004:

lance : Don, thank
you for the lovely autographed limited edition of your book. I have
it vacuum wrapped! I am betting on two tracks as we chat. No more
hockey, I just can't do it all anymore.

Sun Sep 12 20:24:25 2004:

Radar [0/] Login:

Sun Sep 12 20:24:34
2004:
Viktor
: Welcome Radar!

Sun Sep 12 20:24:57 2004:

Radar : Howdy, great to be here, Hi
to all!

Sun Sep 12
20:25:46 2004:

DonS : You're welcome, Lance. My pleasure.
So, the trotters are still a passion, huh? Imagine if you had had
online betting years ago!

Sun Sep 12 20:26:55 2004:

Viktor : Lance: What sites do you
like for betting the hot-to-trots?

Sun Sep 12 20:26:59 2004:

Donnie [0/] Login:

Sun Sep 12 20:27:07
2004:
Viktor
: Welcome Donnie

Sun Sep 12 20:27:17 2004:

Donnie : Hi everybody

Sun Sep 12 20:29:10
2004:
lance [0/]
Msg:Hi Donnie and Radar and Ouchez. I have four satellite dishes so
there are a few racing channels. My account is with Woodnine
Entertainment in Toronto. I can even get Europe on dish three!

Sun Sep 12 20:30:41
2004:
Parker
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Sun Sep 12
20:30:52 2004:

Viktor : Oh, so you need a satellite dish
set-up too? Wow.

Sun Sep 12
20:31:44 2004:

Ouchez : All I know about horses is what I
saw on the movie Seabiscuit and that Custer rode Vic and Dandy to the
Little Big Horn.

Sun Sep 12
20:32:03 2004:

Mickey [0/] Login:

Sun Sep 12 20:32:17 2004:

Viktor : Welcome
Mickey.

Sun Sep 12
20:33:20 2004:

Viktor : lance: You bet mainly on harness
races, correct? Hence the term "trotters?"

Sun Sep 12 20:34:11 2004:

lance : Only
trotters, no thoroughbreds. They are too tough for me.

Sun Sep 12 20:34:34
2004:
Cardkountr
[0/] Login:

Sun Sep 12
20:34:43 2004:

Viktor : Hello Cardkountr

Sun Sep 12 20:34:48
2004:
Cardkountr
: Hello Everyone!!

Sun Sep 12 20:35:01 2004:

Ouchez : Racinos...slots and
horses. Coming to Michigan.

Sun Sep 12 20:35:31 2004:

Viktor : lance: Can you give
everyone an overview of the new material that will in the next
edition of The World's Greatest Blackjack Book?

Sun Sep 12 20:36:10
2004:
norm [0/]
Login:

Sun Sep 12 20:39:17 2004:

lance : The BJ Book Two is divided
into four parts. Part 1 has the basics. Part 2 will have a truncated
Hi-OPT II. Part 3 will have about a dozen articles from different
authorities on the game. Part 4 is titled "Sophisticated
Stuff" and will include a New General Theory of Human
Motivation.

Sun Sep 12 20:39:39 2004:

Radar : Lance, not trying to change
the subject, but I am relatively new, using KO for pitch games. It
has been very successful, but was wondering if Hi-Opt I or II might
be better for shoe games?

Sun Sep 12 20:40:51 2004:

DonS : Radar, you can't compare
Hi-Opt I and II. They are different levels and light years
apart.

Sun Sep 12 20:41:03 2004:

Ouchez : Lance, who are some of the
Autorities?

Sun Sep 12
20:41:10 2004:

Viktor : lance In what way will be Hi-Opt
II be truncated in the new book?

Sun Sep 12 20:41:17 2004:

DonS : But, I can tell you that
Hi-Opt II is the Rolls royce of counting sytems, only you have to be
ready for it.

Sun Sep 12
20:41:36 2004:

Radar : I only see Hi-Opt I in his book,
maybe I need some explanation? Thanks.

Sun Sep 12 20:42:23 2004:

lance : Ouchez.
Sorry I cannot reveal the names yet because of legalities.


Sun Sep 12
20:43:48 2004:

lance : Radar, the complete HI-OPT II is
available for only $40.00 with Multiparameter Tables from
Viktor.

Sun Sep 12 20:44:25
2004:

josey_wales [0/] Login:

Sun Sep 12 20:44:53
2004:
Viktor
: lance For those unfamilar with Hi-Opt II, can you describe
it briefly?

Sun Sep 12 20:46:10 2004:

Radar : Thanks, Lance...like I
said, I am relatively new and still learning.

Sun Sep 12 20:47:34
2004:
lance [0/]
Msg:The Hi-Opt II is very similar to Lawrence Revere's Advanced
System. Both are Level II systems.

Sun Sep 12 20:48:46
2004:
DonS [0/]
Msg:Hi-Opt II also is what's known as an ace-neutral system. The ace
counts as zero, but you then keep a side track of aces to make more
accurate betting decisions.

Sun Sep 12 20:48:56 2004:

Donnie : Lance,
your book was my first in BJ and I enjoyed it thouroughly, but I
think you exaggerated the "cheating dealers" issue. How do
you think about that?

Sun Sep 12 20:48:57 2004:

DonS : So, it's a bit more work --
for more reward!

Sun Sep 12 20:49:59 2004:

Radar : I don't mind the work, I
was looking into Omega II and it is a level 2 system, as well. I
gather the consensus is that Hi-Opt II is better?

Sun Sep 12 20:50:57
2004:
DonS [0/]
Msg:They're very close. Either is great. But, Lance is hosting
tonight, so get Hi-Opt II! :-)

Sun Sep 12 20:51:16 2004:

lance : Donnie, there was about one
hundred times as much cheating in the late 1960s and in all of the
1970s as there is today.

Sun Sep 12 20:51:18 2004:

DonS : When Bryce Carlson hosts,
we'll sing the virtues of AOII! :-)

Sun Sep 12 20:51:36 2004:

Radar : Like I
said...the consensus is that Hi-Opt II is better!

Sun Sep 12 20:52:39
2004:
DonS [0/]
Msg:Lance, Thorp always said he was cheated repeatedly when he first
started out. People must remember that mostly all the games were
hand-dealt then.

Sun Sep 12
20:52:48 2004:

Donnie : Lance, do you think there is any
dealer cheating in the casinos nowadays (excluding pref. shuffling
and the likes of course)?

Sun Sep 12 20:52:51 2004:

Bettie : Lance, will you be
addressing timely issues in your new book, like that of the dealer
cheating? Or will you simply tone it down in accordance with today's
atmosphere of less cheating?

Sun Sep 12 20:55:18 2004:

lance : About
cheating. So far we have no plans to discuss it in Book II. What is
needed is a survey of players who play vs. single and double
decks.

Sun Sep 12 20:57:43 2004:

Bettie : Lance, do you mean play 1
deck vs. 2 deck or multideck vs. 1- and 2-deck?

Sun Sep 12 20:59:232004:

lance : I suspect there is
still a lot of cheating in hand-dealt games. Why not? Hardly anyone
is ever detected.

Sun Sep 12
21:00:24 2004:

Ouchez : I play strictly DD and I think the
dealers cheat more in my favor than the other way around.

Sun Sep 12 21:01:27
2004:
lance [0/]
Msg:A survey showing how system players do vs. single, double, four,
and six deck games would tell us clearly where the cheating is.

Sun Sep 12 21:01:27
2004:
Radar [0/]
Msg:I play DD as well and I don't think much is going on. How can it?
Wouldn't the casinos have too much to lose if they get caught?

Sun Sep 12 21:02:02
2004:
Bettie
: Aha, I understand now.

Sun Sep 12 21:02:19 2004:

[email protected] [0/] Login:

Sun Sep 12 21:02:20
2004:

Laughlin_Marauder [0/] Login:

Sun Sep 12 21:02:52 2004:

Bettie : Ah,
Megapossum! Glad you can join us!

Sun Sep 12 21:02:57 2004:

[email protected]
: Hi all sorry to be late.

Sun Sep 12 21:03:07 2004:

norm : Radar, in the past I think
much cheating was dealer initiated - not casino initiated.

Sun Sep 12 21:03:11
2004:
Viktor
: In the U.S., most cheating happens at Indian casinos. I
don't think it's worth the risk for state regulated, public
companies.

Sun Sep 12
21:03:14 2004:

DonS : You'd never get a big enough sample
to be meaningful, Lance. Too many variables. Everyone playing
different systems, rules, etc. You'd never be able to pin down
under- or overperformance to cheating, in my opinion.


Sun Sep 12
21:03:15 2004:

lance : The survey should show greatest
winnings vs. single. then vs. double next and so on. Do you win more
vs. 2 decks or vs. 6?

Sun Sep 12 21:04:32 2004:

Parker : Disagree, Viktor. At
Indian casinos, at least the ones in SoCal, the tribes are very
concerned about their image, and would not want the negative
publicity.

Sun Sep 12 21:04:43 2004:

Radar : I can understand a dealer
cheating for themselves, but most dealers I see can hardly deal a
game, let alone have the intelligence and dexterity to deal seconds!
Of course, I have lost a few sessions here and there...that MUST have
been cheating

Sun Sep 12
21:04:50 2004:

DonS : No, Lance, have to disagree. Most
teams play exclusively vs. the shoes. You can't get big money down
vs. 1-deck games. So, in general, that's not where the big money is
one.

Sun Sep 12
21:05:00 2004:

lance : If a few hundred players are
surveyed, "statistical" playing errors would cancel each
other out, if you think on it.

Sun Sep 12 21:06:07
2004:
Viktor
: Parker Obviously cheating is not in the interest of any
business, for those very reasons. But subjectively, the emails I get
about cheating are either credible and about Indian casinos, or sour
grapes. Remember all the broohaha about Palms 29?

Sun Sep 12 21:06:22 2004:

Bettie : Out of
curiosity, is it casino-condoned cheating or simply individual dealer
cheating that you think is more prevalent? (This goes out to
everyone.)

Sun Sep 12
21:06:34 2004:

Laughlin_Marauder : I agree with Don on
this one the shoes are much more profitable for team play, and
usually you cannot jump in and out of a pitch games. Unless you own
the dealer or they are a break-in.

Sun Sep 12 21:06:38 2004:

DonS : You'd never
get an accurate read on what each player's expectation was. Too many
variables, rules sets, changing conditions, players at the table,
etc. Impossible to quantify.

Sun Sep 12 21:06:43 2004:

lance : Don, you have a valid point
on the single-deck game. Not enough cards dealt.

Sun Sep 12 21:07:28 2004:

Parker : Also, I
think that the "mechanic" dealer who can deal seconds undetectably is
an endangered species.

Sun Sep 12 21:07:42 2004:

DonS : and big spreads virtually
impossible.

Sun Sep 12
21:07:55 2004:

[email protected] : Lance-bought
your system in around '90. At first used only for SD and DD. When I
started using for 6D, did better than KO I was currently using for
6D. When your new edition comes out, will you have indices for
6D?

Sun Sep 12
21:07:58 2004:

Laughlin_Marauder : The Casino would have
to condone it, at least the PC, the dealer has nothing to profit by
taking money from the players who are toking him.

Sun Sep 12 21:08:27 2004:

DonS : I would have
to say that it would never be the stated policy of any reputable
casino to encourage dealers to cheat. They simply don't need
to.

Sun Sep 12
21:09:04 2004:

DonS : On the other hand, I believe dealers
can and do conspire with players to cheat the house. That's much more
likely and, obviously, there's something in it for the dealer.

Sun Sep 12 21:09:17
2004:

Laughlin_Marauder : Yes dealers do cheat
the house, ALOT.

Sun Sep 12
21:09:21 2004:

Cardkountr : More than likely if a dealer
was a good enough mechanic, he'd be cheating for the benefit of his
friends/relatives and not to make the house money.

Sun Sep 12 21:09:25
2004:
norm [0/]
Msg:Laughlin, in the past, dealers had to cheat random players to
make up for the cheating to help partners.

Sun Sep 12 21:09:32 2004:

Parker : Besides,
why would casinos bother with cheating at blackjack these days? Slots
are the big cash cows.
Sun Sep 12 21:09:38
2004:
Bettie
: Laughlin, But I wonder about the disgruntled dealer, sick of
not being tipped enough, just getting pissy with the players and
cheating them for fun.

Sun Sep 12 21:10:35 2004:

Laughlin_Marauder : My dealer
friend has done that, but usually it's because there is a ploppy who
is being rude.

Sun Sep 12
21:10:37 2004:

DonS : Parker: they cheat at blackjack;
they call it 6 to 5 for a natural

Sun Sep 12 21:10:44 2004:

Laughlin_Marauder [0/]
Msg:haha

Sun Sep 12
21:10:44 2004:

Viktor : Or more so, for revenge for poor
tipping. To both Parker's and Lance's points, a couple incidents of
cheating that I have been informed of could have been just
that.

Sun Sep 12
21:11:10 2004:

lance : Book II will have indices for
6D.

Sun Sep 12
21:11:35 2004:

DonS : Serves you guys right for playing
those silly hand-dealt games!

Sun Sep 12 21:11:40 2004:

Mickey : Does anyone seriously play
single-deck? I get the sense that it is watched way too closely to
really make good money.

Sun Sep 12 21:11:42 2004:

Parker : Good point, Don. With 6:5
BJ payouts, no need to deal seconds.

Sun Sep 12 21:12:04
2004:
DonS [0/]
Msg:Mind you, I played a TON of DD at Riviera, Maxim, Mirage, etc.,
when they had their legendary games.

Sun Sep 12 21:12:10
2004:

[email protected] : Lance-thanks to
Norm's software I'm able to generate my own, just thought it would be
good addition to new ed.

Sun Sep 12 21:12:31 2004:

Parker : I play single deck, but
mostly in the Reno area.

Sun Sep 12 21:12:56 2004:

Laughlin_Marauder : Here in
Laughlin you can still make single deck profitable at a particular
casino on the graveyard it depends on the dealer, one dealer on
Saturday let me spread 9:1 and never called checks play once...

Sun Sep 12 21:12:59
2004:
DonS [0/]
Msg:You're forgiven, Parker. One day, you'll see the light.


Sun Sep 12
21:13:06 2004:

lance : In my opinion, cheating can only be
proven by asking winning players how they do vs hand held games
compared to shoe games.

Sun Sep 12 21:13:37 2004:

DonS : Laughlin: yeah, but $9 to
$1 doesn't scare them!

Sun Sep 12 21:14:22 2004:

Viktor : Lance, how much of Hi-Opt
II will be in the new edition?

Sun Sep 12 21:14:42 2004:

Donnie [0/] Logout:_

Sun Sep 12 21:14:56 2004:
Viktor : And will
you have indices for 3 decks?

Sun Sep 12 21:15:08 2004:

DonS : And 5 and 7?

Sun Sep 12 21:15:12
2004:

Laughlin_Marauder : DonS, very funny of
course they also don't seem to get scared on 5 - 45 when a certain
chubby dealer is pitching.

Sun Sep 12 21:15:38 2004:

DonS : Actually, that's great. EV
must be off the wall.

Sun Sep 12 21:15:45 2004:

lance : Book II will have HI-OPT II
indices up to plus and minus 5 or 6, whatever Don thinks is
best!

Sun Sep 12
21:16:26 2004:

DonS : We'll work out an optimal set with
Norm. Should be fun.

Sun Sep 12 21:17:00 2004:

lance : There is very little
difference in indices among two to eight decks.

Sun Sep 12 21:17:31 2004:

[email protected]
: Lance-I learned the HO I from your book, and after I bought
the HO II, I spent a couple of weeks on the new indices. Switched one
weekend, won 600 first night, 3x what it cost!!

Sun Sep 12 21:18:10 2004:

lance : When I play
now I rarely sit down. I just walk around, stop get a plus count, bet
and leave when it turns minus.

Sun Sep 12 21:18:20 2004:

Laughlin_Marauder : EV is good, but
I still gotta be a little careful, they have one sharp PC that
sometimes works that shift, so when she is there I have to stop
playing when I triple my buy in.

Sun Sep 12 21:18:34 2004:

Viktor : lance Tell us more about
this enigmatic new section on "Human Motivations." Will this help the
average player play better, or will it help them understand why they
play at all?

Sun Sep 12
21:19:07 2004:

Bettie : Either way, it sounds more like
something you find in a poker book.

Sun Sep 12 21:20:24 2004:

lance : The New
Theory is backed with about 15 years of scientific research. It
explains why we play ANYTHING. It's an existential thing.

Sun Sep 12 21:20:57
2004:
Bettie
: Ah, very good, grasshopper!

Sun Sep 12 21:21:08 2004:

DonS : Chapter
title: "To double or not to double"!

Sun Sep 12 21:21:48 2004:

Parker : I count,
therefore I am.

Sun Sep 12
21:21:55 2004:

Laughlin_Marauder : So basically it's a
chapter on emotions? Is this on how to not let them effect proper
play?

Sun Sep 12
21:21:56 2004:

DonS : Better still!

Sun Sep 12 21:22:24 2004:

lance : Above all
else to thine own count be true!

Sun Sep 12 21:22:37 2004:

norm [0/] Logout:_

Sun Sep 12 21:22:44 2004:

Mickey [0/] Logout:_

Sun Sep 12 21:23:21
2004:
DonS [0/]
Msg:Mass defections!

Sun Sep 12 21:23:22 2004:

Viktor : No, "I count, therefore I
win. Eventually."

Sun Sep 12
21:23:53 2004:

Cardkountr : or.......Be the Count

Sun Sep 12 21:24:03
2004:
DonS [0/]
Msg:"If you cheat us, do we not bleed?"!

Sun Sep 12 21:24:10 2004:

Ouchez : I think
emotions are very important for the player to understand and to
control.

Sun Sep 12
21:24:23 2004:

Laughlin_Marauder : Bleed green for
sure!

Sun Sep 12
21:24:34 2004:

Bettie : Wow, Ouchez, that's the worst
chapter title so far!

Sun Sep 12 21:24:46 2004:

DonS : LOL!!

Sun Sep 12 21:24:54 2004:

Radar : Ouchez, I
agree, it has been the biggest point of contention in my game...I can
honestly say that I am getting a hold of it, though.

Sun Sep 12 21:24:54
2004:

josey_wales [0/] Logout:_

Sun Sep 12 21:24:57 2004:

Viktor : lance In
all seriousness, in addition to being extremely interesting, which I
can tell everyone from the preview you gave us a few months ago that
it is, do you think it will have any practical value?

Sun Sep 12 21:25:00
2004:

Laughlin_Marauder : Emotions are a
detriment to proper play in any game/sport.

Sun Sep 12 21:25:06 2004:

lance : The Theory
has six interlocking concepts: existence, effectance, esteem, effort,
elation, blocks. Wait for the book!

Sun Sep 12 21:25:49 2004:

Laughlin_Marauder [0/]
Msg:Zen and the art of counting cards.

Sun Sep 12 21:25:57 2004:

Viktor : lance
Excellent. Like I mentioned to you before, I operate on the principle
that most recreational players want to lose.

Sun Sep 12 21:27:02 2004:

Parker : I don't
know if they *want* to lose, Viktor, but I think that they *expect*
to lose.

Sun Sep 12
21:27:06 2004:

Bettie : It'll be nice to have a book that
deals with those issues. So many newbies get on our site and keep
asking the same questions over and over - how do you deal with your
emotions?

Sun Sep 12
21:27:09 2004:

Laughlin_Marauder : I haven't met even the
most extreme ploppy that wants to lose... That is why they stand in
fear of busting.

Sun Sep 12 21:27:18 2004:

DonS : "Effectance"? You got me,
Lance. Not in my big dictionary.

Sun Sep 12 21:29:13 2004:

Ouchez : I think it
has something to do with "Bowling".

Sun Sep 12 21:30:05
2004:
lance [0/]
Msg:Right Don. Effectance, it's an esoteric psychological term
referring to the need to have effects to confirm one's existence.
Heavy stuff.!!

Sun Sep 12
21:30:27 2004:

Laughlin_Marauder : yeah google the word.
There are alot of very interesting articles.

Sun Sep 12 21:30:31 2004:

Bettie : Seriously
heavy!

Sun Sep 12
21:30:35 2004:

DonS : I was sure it was a special term.
Thanks. Interesting.

Sun Sep 12 21:30:50 2004:

Viktor : I stand by what I said.
People know they will lose in the long run. They play for the action,
the adrenaline. Losing is a very important part of the adrenaline
rush. Action is action, negative or positive. Losing is safer then
winning.

Sun Sep 12
21:31:08 2004:

lance : Ouchez is SO smart. Bowling is
correct! Ouchez, get on Jeopardy quick, beat Jennings.


Sun Sep 12
21:31:10 2004:

Laughlin_Marauder : It refers to
motivation

Sun Sep 12 21:31:52 2004:

Bettie : I thought Jennings was out
now.

Sun Sep 12 21:31:54 2004:

Viktor : People continue to play
after a big win for a reason. From previous experience they know they
will probably hit the big negative swing before another positive
one.

Sun Sep 12 21:32:20 2004:

Laughlin_Marauder : But they
continue play with hopes the streak will continue.

Sun Sep 12 21:32:31
2004:
DonS [0/]
Msg:Lance, another first for you for sure: In the history of
blackjack literature, no book has ever contained the word
"effectance" ... until now!

Sun Sep 12 21:32:51 2004:

lance : Viktor is also SO smart. We
all play to confirm our existence with the adrenalin.

Sun Sep 12 21:32:51
2004:
Viktor
: I disagree. Only beginners will do that. Experienced players
know they will most likely lose. They count on it. IMO.

Sun Sep 12 21:33:02
2004:
Bettie
: Ah, streaks! You do realize that streaks only exist in
hindsight.

Sun Sep 12
21:33:42 2004:

Laughlin_Marauder : streaks are just a
deviation from the expected...

Sun Sep 12 21:33:58 2004:

Laughlin_Marauder : and the
casino's cash cow.

Sun Sep 12 21:33:59 2004:

[email protected] : Just
read in today's paper that someone beat Jennings on Jeopardy. That he
ran his win streak up to 2.5mil first, though.

Sun Sep 12 21:34:03 2004:

Viktor : I'm also
referring to slots and VP, which will have a non-standard
distribution, making it MUCH more likely they will lose and lose
before a win. Different than blackjack.

Sun Sep 12 21:34:12 2004:

lance : Bettie is
also SO smart. I never realized streaks only "occur" later. She's
right!

Sun Sep 12 21:34:34 2004:

Viktor : Smart and Funny. What a
gal!

Sun Sep 12 21:35:12 2004:

Viktor : lance So how many pages
will this new tome likely be?

Sun Sep 12 21:35:20 2004:

Ouchez : Bettie,
the Queen of BJ!

Sun Sep 12
21:35:53 2004:

Parker : Careful, Ouchez!

Sun Sep 12 21:35:59
2004:
DonS [0/]
Msg:And who will publish it, Lance? Still with Doubleday?

Sun Sep 12 21:36:41
2004:
DonS [0/]
Msg:Sounds like a good book for RGE -- more reliable than Doubleday!


Sun Sep 12
21:37:14 2004:

Bettie : Which one? Lance's or the one
Ouchez suggested?

Sun Sep 12 21:37:30 2004:

DonS : Both!

Sun Sep 12 21:37:58 2004:

Laughlin_Marauder [0/]
Msg:I bet it would be whichever has the highest EV for his cut.

Sun Sep 12 21:38:16
2004:
lance [0/]
Msg:Book II will probably have 400 pages. The publisher will be the
firm that gives us the largest advance. Hopefully six figures.

Sun Sep 12 21:38:21
2004:

[email protected] : And RGE could
publish in the "Lay flat hard-back style!"

Sun Sep 12 21:39:00
2004:
Bettie
: Okay guys, maybe we should save it for next week's social
chat. You'll all have to save up your dirty jokes until then!


Sun Sep 12 21:39:31 2004:

Laughlin_Marauder : Lance will your
book cover any techniques for camo? I apologize if this has been
answered just returned from Vegas.

Sun Sep 12 21:40:11
2004:
Bettie
: Especially any Hi-Opt II specific camo!

Sun Sep 12 21:40:46 2004:

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Sun Sep 12 21:41:03
2004:

[email protected] : If a person
plays all in games, the weird hits in neg. counts are plenty of
camo!

Sun Sep 12
21:41:10 2004:

Viktor : lance 6-figure advance? Alright,
give me a few minutes to search under the cushions on the
couch.

Sun Sep 12
21:41:48 2004:
Viktor : Bettie is
hitting the phone now.

Sun Sep 12 21:44:52 2004:

Bettie : Sorry all! Lance had to
run, as he could only stay for an hour or so. He said he wrote a
goodbye message to everyone, but he must not have hit the "send"
button. He apologizes and says to keep asking questions and I can
pass them along to him.

Sun Sep 12 21:45:42 2004:

Laughlin_Marauder : I wish my
flight had not been so delayed, I was looking forward to this
chat;-(

Sun Sep 12
21:46:12 2004:

Bettie : Well, you can always ask your
questions in Don's Domain, as Lance has accesss.

Sun Sep 12 21:46:42 2004:

Ouchez : This was a
fine chat and Thank Lance for me...Bettie.

Sun Sep 12 21:46:58 2004:

Bettie : Will
do!

Sun Sep 12
21:47:12 2004:

[email protected] : Enjoy it all.
Goodnight.

Sun Sep 12
21:47:39 2004:

Ouchez : I am getting tired now and will be
crawling into my cozy bed, goodnight all.

Sun Sep 12 21:47:39 2004:

[email protected]
: Make that, Enjoyed it.

Sun Sep 12 21:47:46 2004:

DonS : Goodnight everyone. Thank
you for coming.

Sun Sep 12
21:47:48 2004:

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Sun Sep 12 21:47:55
2004:
DonS [0/]
Msg:See you again soon.

Sun Sep 12 21:47:59 2004:

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Sun Sep 12 21:48:04 2004:

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Sun Sep 12 21:48:15
2004:
Bettie
: Well, here starts the mass exodus. Night!

Sun Sep 12 21:48:17
2004:
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Sun Sep 12
21:48:21 2004:

Laughlin_Marauder : night all

Sun Sep 12 21:48:24
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Sun Sep 12 21:48:39
2004:
Parker
: Me, too - busy day tommorrow. Good night all.

Sun Sep 12 21:48:48
2004:
Radar [0/]
Msg:Goodnite and thanks

Sun Sep 12 21:48:48 2004:

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Sun Sep 12 21:48:49 2004:

Cardkountr : night
everyone

Sun Sep 12
21:48:54 2004:

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Sun Sep 12 21:48:59 2004:

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Sun Sep 12 21:49:06
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Sun Sep 12 22:35:29 2004:

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Sun Sep 12 22:35:59
2004:
ES [0/]
Msg:Is the chat still on?

Sun Sep 12 22:40:49 2004:

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