aria_hmmm: binions--gaming control called

[aria_hmmm]

friday i walked by binions--the used to be best place for action and excitement---and observed this ghost town was flipping over blackjacks with 10 in the hole AFTER all hands had been played out even after using the mirror stupid thing to check for face hole cards wth ace up.

i asked why, and dealer said 10-cards were not registering on the mirror, and unless the hole card was a J,K,Q, they wouldnt know if their hand was indeed a bj, until they flipped it over, after playing out the entire round, including racking insurance bets.

i asked why they just don't manually check it like old style, and the reply was that binions wouldnt allow it. (probably because most of the "show girl-party pit type" dealers nowadays are so inept, they cant even check hole card old school style, much less add up 3 card values!)

so i reported this to the gaming commission immediately. they said they'd send someone down there to check it out.

can a casino get away with this kind of nonsense?

[bigplayer]

There is no rule the casino has to peek as long as they use the old school method of putting chips from losing splits on top of the cards until whether a dealer blackjack is finalized. (You'd get that money back if the dealer had it and lose it if they didn't).

[Bettie]

> There is no rule the casino has to peek as long as
> they use the old school method of putting chips from
> losing splits on top of the cards until whether a
> dealer blackjack is finalized. (You'd get that money
> back if the dealer had it and lose it if they didn't).

Still, to peek on some 10-value cards and not others is strange. The mere fact that there isn't a consistent method should be enough to raise a red flag with Gaming.

Bettie

[Mr. X]

I don't know if it's an actual Gaming Control Board 'Law', but whenever I've seen a dealer misread the peek and turn over a BJ after everyone plays, at a casino where they're supposed to peek, the dealer's hand just counts as a 21, meaning player's 21's tie.
And, of course, bigplayer is correct about doubles and splits only losing the original (as opposed to ENHC).
I recall a few Vegas casinos that intentionally did not peek (Atlantic City never did for years, hated that), usually because they were too cheap to by the automatic peekers. e.g., Lady Luck manually peeked under aces but didn't peek under 10's. They played under bigplayer's '"old school" rules-, but dealer bj beat player 21. This was early 90's, so I'm shaky on some details. And didn't some (or all?) Coast casinos not peek at all up till a few years ago?
Anyway, I wouldn't complain- if my assumptions are true, malfunctioning peek machines are a slight ADVANTAGE to the player (player 21's tie misread dealer BJ's)