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    adelphi
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    adelphi: north tower or south tower--lv club

    Does anybody know, is there a significant differnence between rooms in the south tower and the north tower at the Las Vegas Club?

    What is the best place to look for cheap hotel deals downtown? Besides El Cortez or The Western.

    Thanks for any help.

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    Parker
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    Parker: Downtown hotels

    > Does anybody know, is there a significant
    > differnence between rooms in the south tower
    > and the north tower at the Las Vegas Club?

    > What is the best place to look for cheap
    > hotel deals downtown? Besides El Cortez or
    > The Western.

    The north tower at LVC is newer than the south tower, but the south tower has been renovated not too long ago. The furniture in the north tower is newer. The north tower king rooms have a sofa and coffee table, while the south tower king rooms have a small dining table and a couple of chairs.

    The north tower is further away from the Fremont Street Experience than the south tower, which might be a concern if you plan on sleeping between 7-12 pm.

    The hotel considers the north tower rooms nicer and charges a small premium for them. Personally, I don't think it's worth it - the south tower rooms suit me just fine.

    The Las Vegas Club, Horseshoe, Fitzgerald's, Four Queens, Plaza, Fremont, California, and Main St. Station all have rooms that are similar in quality - a little on the smallish side, but clean, well-maintained and comfortable. I've found all of them to be adequate for my modest needs.

    The Golden Gate is an interesting place to stay. Some of the rooms are part of the original hotel, built in 1906. The rooms are tiny, really tiny, even by downtown standards. You only get two twin beds or a single queen bed because any larger combination would not physically fit in the room. Still, they have niceties like coffee makers and dataports on the phones, and are actually quite cozy, providing you have no claustrophobic tendencies.


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    Geoff Hall
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    Geoff Hall: Re: Downtown hotels


    > The north tower at LVC is newer than the
    > south tower, but the south tower has been
    > renovated not too long ago. The furniture in
    > the north tower is newer. The north tower
    > king rooms have a sofa and coffee table,
    > while the south tower king rooms have a
    > small dining table and a couple of chairs.

    > The north tower is further away from the
    > Fremont Street Experience than the south
    > tower, which might be a concern if you plan
    > on sleeping between 7-12 pm.

    > The hotel considers the north tower rooms
    > nicer and charges a small premium for them.
    > Personally, I don't think it's worth it -
    > the south tower rooms suit me just fine.

    > The Las Vegas Club, Horseshoe, Fitzgerald's,
    > Four Queens, Plaza, Fremont, California, and
    > Main St. Station all have rooms that are
    > similar in quality - a little on the
    > smallish side, but clean, well-maintained
    > and comfortable. I've found all of them to
    > be adequate for my modest needs.

    > The Golden Gate is an interesting place to
    > stay. Some of the rooms are part of the
    > original hotel, built in 1906. The rooms are
    > tiny, really tiny, even by downtown
    > standards. You only get two twin beds or a
    > single queen bed because any larger
    > combination would not physically fit in the
    > room. Still, they have niceties like coffee
    > makers and dataports on the phones, and are
    > actually quite cozy, providing you have no
    > claustrophobic tendencies.

    I did respond with my humble reply but decided to delete it as Parker has provided much better in-depth information.

    It's like reading one of their brochures :-)

    Best regards

    Geoff




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    Parker
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    Parker: Downtown tower confusion

    > I did respond with my humble reply but
    > decided to delete it as Parker has provided
    > much better in-depth information.

    > It's like reading one of their brochures :-)

    Gee, thanks - except that I doubt that their brochure would recommend against spending the extra $$ for a north tower room.

    I wish you'd left your response up, except for having the towers confused.

    It's easy to do. The north tower is the one with the elevators closest to the front desk, near the sports book. The south tower elevators are across from the Great Momemts Room restaurant. As you mentioned, these are not carpeted (although I don't have a problem with hardwood elevator floors).

    Speaking of restaurants, the LVC coffee shop has a new head chef who has made considerable improvements. The overall quality of the food is much improved, and they now offer attractively priced daily specials in addition to the menu items. Show your players card and they knock a buck off your total. Of course, they still have the $2.95 late-night steak & eggs.

    Getting back to the towers, they can be confusing. Consider:

    Four Queens: The south tower rooms are newer, nicer, and further away from Fremont St. Experience, than the north tower.

    Plaza: The south tower is newer than the north tower, although quality is about the same. If you get an upper level room on the south side of the south tower, you will have a spectacular view of the strip. Also, the south tower is closer to the casino and much closer to the parking garage. These rooms can be had for the asking when available - they don't charge a premium for the view (many strip hotels do).

    Horseshoe: The west side tower rooms in what was formerly the Mint Hotel are much larger and newer than the rooms above the east side of the casino. However, the east side rooms have style and it's nice being right above the casino.

    Golden Nugget: The rooms in the north tower are supposed to be nicer than those in the south tower. I can't say - I've never stayed in the north tower. However, any room at the Golden Nugget is outstanding. This is definitely the class of downtown.

    Fitzgerald's: Only one tower here, but if you get one of the southwest corner rooms on an upper level, you will have an awesome view of the strip & elsewhere, as this is the tallest building downtown. The windows on these rooms wrap right around the corner of the room, providing a panoramic view.

  5. #5
    SOTSOG
    Guest

    SOTSOG: Re: north tower or south tower--lv club

    The Lady Luck also is a good place to look for cheap room deals.


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    Sun Runner
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    Sun Runner: Geoff Hall's original post

    > I wish you'd left your response up ..

    How is it that Geoff Hall's original post is not visible as a "message deleted by poster?"

    Having the capability to COMPLETELY remove evidence of a bad post would be a nice trick for a guy like me.

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    Parker
    Guest

    Parker: It's who you know

    > How is it that Geoff Hall's original post is
    > not visible as a "message deleted by
    > poster?"

    > Having the capability to COMPLETELY remove
    > evidence of a bad post would be a nice trick
    > for a guy like me.

    Short answer: I removed it.

    Long answer: The reason for the "message deleted by poster" tag is to act as a placeholder. If someone (or several someones) has responded to a post that is subsequently deleted by the poster, the "message deleted . . . " keeps the threading intact and avoids the creation of "orphan" posts.

    However, I think that having a bunch of "message deleted by poster" placeholders clutters up the boards. So if someone deletes a post that has not generated any responses, I will usually delete the "mesage deleted . . . " placeholder.

  8. #8
    adelphi
    Guest

    adelphi: thanks to all for all of the info *NM*


  9. #9
    Sun Runner
    Guest

    Sun Runner: I guess! :) *NM*


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    Knight of Dawn
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    Knight of Dawn: Re: Downtown hotels

    I'm a bit sheepish about asking for comps. What is the best way to go about getting rooms comped? Does one need a player's club card for this? If so, wouldn't having one of these cards be a bad idea for a pro? I'm actually surprised that you stay in these rooms since I assume you live in Vegas.
    Thanks!
    KOD

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    Parker
    Guest

    Parker: Comps

    > I'm a bit sheepish about asking for comps.
    > What is the best way to go about getting
    > rooms comped? Does one need a player's club
    > card for this? If so, wouldn't having one of
    > these cards be a bad idea for a pro? I'm
    > actually surprised that you stay in these
    > rooms since I assume you live in Vegas.
    > Thanks!

    A common misconception. I actually live in the San Diego area, although I spend nearly as much time in Las Vegas as I do in CA. And when I come to Las Vegas, I stay downtown more often than not.

    The first rule in comps is, "You gotta ask!" This does take some getting used to - at first you may feel like you are begging. This is wrong - you have earned those comps with your play, just as you earn a salary at a regular job. You are entitled to them.

    A players card is necessary for all but the smallest comps. This is not a big deal. At higher stakes, it can actually generate more heat to refuse to be rated. After all, what sort of person turns down free stuff?

    Assuming you play at green chip levels or above, a few weeks after giving a casino some action you will start receiving offers in the mail. You simply call the casino and talk to a host in order to take advantage of these offers.

    Or, while you are playing at a casino, you ask to speak to a table games host. Tell the host that you are planning a future trip and would like to stay at their hotel if it can be arranged.

    Some hotel/casinos do not have table games hosts - you simply talk to a shift supervisor. Just tell the pitboss that you'd like to arrange a comp, and they wil hook you up with the proper person.

    To arrange an up-front comp, simply call the hotel and talk to a table games host (or supervisor, as mentioned above). Describe your action to them. Be careful - say something like, "My average bet is around $100," rather than, "I spread 1-8 green."

    They will usually offer you a room at a reduced "casino rate" and offer to review you play for full comp at the conclusion of your visit. Be sure to ask them to do this, especially if you lose big. This is also a good time to make arrangements for your next trip.

    A few casinos (those in Mandalay Resort Group, for example), use a point system. You earn "comp dollars" with your play. You use these just like regular money to pay for rooms, meals, etc.

    Whether to take advantage of comps or try to play anonymously is one of those topics that is discussed endlessly on boards such as these. However, for the green - mid-black player, comps represent a significant source of EV and should not be overlooked.

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    Knight of Dawn
    Guest

    Knight of Dawn: Re: Comps

    I'll respond via email since I don't want to get too specific here. Good info!
    KOD

    > A common misconception. I actually live in
    > the San Diego area, although I spend nearly
    > as much time in Las Vegas as I do in CA. And
    > when I come to Las Vegas, I stay downtown
    > more often than not.

    > The first rule in comps is, "You gotta
    > ask!" This does take some getting used
    > to - at first you may feel like you are
    > begging. This is wrong - you have earned
    > those comps with your play, just as you earn
    > a salary at a regular job. You are entitled
    > to them.

    > A players card is necessary for all but the
    > smallest comps. This is not a big deal. At
    > higher stakes, it can actually generate more
    > heat to refuse to be rated. After all, what
    > sort of person turns down free stuff?

    > Assuming you play at green chip levels or
    > above, a few weeks after giving a casino
    > some action you will start receiving offers
    > in the mail. You simply call the casino and
    > talk to a host in order to take advantage of
    > these offers.

    > Or, while you are playing at a casino, you
    > ask to speak to a table games host. Tell the
    > host that you are planning a future trip and
    > would like to stay at their hotel if it can
    > be arranged.

    > Some hotel/casinos do not have table games
    > hosts - you simply talk to a shift
    > supervisor. Just tell the pitboss that you'd
    > like to arrange a comp, and they wil hook
    > you up with the proper person.

    > To arrange an up-front comp, simply call the
    > hotel and talk to a table games host (or
    > supervisor, as mentioned above). Describe
    > your action to them. Be careful - say
    > something like, "My average bet is
    > around $100," rather than, "I
    > spread 1-8 green."

    > They will usually offer you a room at a
    > reduced "casino rate" and offer to
    > review you play for full comp at the
    > conclusion of your visit. Be sure to ask
    > them to do this, especially if you lose big.
    > This is also a good time to make
    > arrangements for your next trip.

    > A few casinos (those in Mandalay Resort
    > Group, for example), use a point system. You
    > earn "comp dollars" with your
    > play. You use these just like regular money
    > to pay for rooms, meals, etc.

    > Whether to take advantage of comps or try to
    > play anonymously is one of those topics that
    > is discussed endlessly on boards such as
    > these. However, for the green - mid-black
    > player, comps represent a significant source
    > of EV and should not be overlooked.

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    BJ player
    Guest

    BJ player: Re: Comps

    > A common misconception. I actually live in
    > the San Diego area, although I spend nearly
    > as much time in Las Vegas as I do in CA. And
    > when I come to Las Vegas, I stay downtown
    > more often than not.

    > The first rule in comps is, "You gotta
    > ask!" This does take some getting used
    > to - at first you may feel like you are
    > begging. This is wrong - you have earned
    > those comps with your play, just as you earn
    > a salary at a regular job. You are entitled
    > to them.

    > A players card is necessary for all but the
    > smallest comps. This is not a big deal. At
    > higher stakes, it can actually generate more
    > heat to refuse to be rated. After all, what
    > sort of person turns down free stuff?

    > Assuming you play at green chip levels or
    > above, a few weeks after giving a casino
    > some action you will start receiving offers
    > in the mail. You simply call the casino and
    > talk to a host in order to take advantage of
    > these offers.

    > Or, while you are playing at a casino, you
    > ask to speak to a table games host. Tell the
    > host that you are planning a future trip and
    > would like to stay at their hotel if it can
    > be arranged.

    > Some hotel/casinos do not have table games
    > hosts - you simply talk to a shift
    > supervisor. Just tell the pitboss that you'd
    > like to arrange a comp, and they wil hook
    > you up with the proper person.

    > To arrange an up-front comp, simply call the
    > hotel and talk to a table games host (or
    > supervisor, as mentioned above). Describe
    > your action to them. Be careful - say
    > something like, "My average bet is
    > around $100," rather than, "I
    > spread 1-8 green."

    > They will usually offer you a room at a
    > reduced "casino rate" and offer to
    > review you play for full comp at the
    > conclusion of your visit. Be sure to ask
    > them to do this, especially if you lose big.
    > This is also a good time to make
    > arrangements for your next trip.

    > A few casinos (those in Mandalay Resort
    > Group, for example), use a point system. You
    > earn "comp dollars" with your
    > play. You use these just like regular money
    > to pay for rooms, meals, etc.

    > Whether to take advantage of comps or try to
    > play anonymously is one of those topics that
    > is discussed endlessly on boards such as
    > these. However, for the green - mid-black
    > player, comps represent a significant source
    > of EV and should not be overlooked.

    What will be the worst case, if I play as a mid-black-player under my real name in a strip casino?
    Is this the biggest mistake I can do? What about the problem, that my name will be in the Griffin database?

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