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Thread: Norm Wattenberger: CVData/CVCX Futures

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    Norm Wattenberger
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    Norm Wattenberger: CVData/CVCX Futures

    If anyone has any requests for the next version of CVData and/or CVCX, now would be the time.


    Serious Blackjack Software

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    Dog Hand
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    Dog Hand: CVData Requests

    Norm,

    I often use CVData to sim sidebets. I'd like to see the following features added to your excellent product:

    1. Allow different tags for the various "X" cards, so for example Kings could have a different tag than 10's.

    2. Allow tags to differ by suit, so for instance a Spade 7 could have a different tag than a Diamond 7.

    3. When performing sims with "altered" decks, allow the user to select not just the rank of the cards removed (or added), but also their suits, so rather than simply removing 6 X's, the user could remove 6 Club Jacks.

    4. Allow the user to specify a sidebet betting strategy, so for example the player could wager 1 unit on the SB at TC's of +4 to +6, and 2 units at TC's of +7 and above. Even more, allow the user to specify different SB betting strategies for different players.

    Thanks in advance!

    Dog Hand

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    ES
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    ES: Re: CVData/CVCX Futures

    I would like more statistics for the Session Totals. Currently, CV Data displays the session bankroll, the target, the maximum number of rounds in each session, (The first three numbers are input by the user.), the number of sessions played, the percentage of the sessions with a net win, the percentage of the sessions with a net loss, the percentage of the sessions with a push, the percentage of the sessions in which the target result was met and the percentage of the sessions in which the entire session bankroll was lost. I would like to see the following additional statistics printable:

    1. For all sessions with winning totals, i.e. the player's total at the end of the session is greater than the session bankroll, the mean size of the win and the standard deviation of the wins.

    2. The same as 1 above for all losing sessions.

    3. The mean and standard deviation of the lengths in terms of the number of rounds for sessions in which the target result was met.

    4. The same as 3 for sessions in which the entire session bankroll was lost.

    I would also like more options in setting up the sessions-based simulations, e.g. the ability to halve the size of the betting unit when half the session bankroll is lost, while leaving the size of the session bankroll unchanged. I am more interested in the additional statistics than this additional feature if only one of these can be added to CV Data. Thanks in advance.

    > If anyone has any requests for the next version of
    > CVData and/or CVCX, now would be the time.

    > Serious Blackjack Software

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    Norm Wattenberger
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    Norm Wattenberger: Re: CVData/CVCX Futures

    Haven't looked at the session logic in awhile. I'll take a look.

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    Norm Wattenberger
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    Norm Wattenberger: Re: CVData Requests

    1 and 2 are planned. I'll look at 3 and 4. All useful.

    > Norm,

    > I often use CVData to sim sidebets. I'd like to see
    > the following features added to your excellent
    > product:

    > 1. Allow different tags for the various "X"
    > cards, so for example Kings could have a different tag
    > than 10's.

    > 2. Allow tags to differ by suit, so for instance a
    > Spade 7 could have a different tag than a Diamond 7.

    > 3. When performing sims with "altered"
    > decks, allow the user to select not just the rank of
    > the cards removed (or added), but also their suits, so
    > rather than simply removing 6 X's, the user could
    > remove 6 Club Jacks.

    > 4. Allow the user to specify a sidebet betting
    > strategy, so for example the player could wager 1 unit
    > on the SB at TC's of +4 to +6, and 2 units at TC's of
    > +7 and above. Even more, allow the user to specify
    > different SB betting strategies for different players.

    > Thanks in advance!

    > Dog Hand

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    fatcat519
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    fatcat519: Re: CVData/CVCX Futures

    > If anyone has any requests for the next version of
    > CVData and/or CVCX, now would be the time.

    Maybe this is in the works, but I would like to be able to go from one hand to two in CVCX.

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    Norm Wattenberger
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    Norm Wattenberger: Re: CVData/CVCX Futures

    This currently is supported for true-counted strategies that are floored or truncated.

    > Maybe this is in the works, but I would like to be
    > able to go from one hand to two in CVCX.

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    Franz Joseph
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    Franz Joseph: Importance of "Small" Bankroll Sims, i.e. Sessions

    Much of Don's book deals with risk of ruin for a large bankroll. The pros may think of their bank as not unlike an investment portfolio and look to play with a low risk of ruin.

    Most counters are not pros and the high table miniums, especially at relatively decent games, preclude playing with a 3% or 5% RoR. Then, many, if not most, "recreational" counters and BS players are not playing with an investment portfolio-like bank, but rather with "mad money." (All apollogies to Jim Cramer!) Such players look at each pocketful of cash taken on a bus trip to Atlantic City as a stand alone bank that they are willing to risk in its entirety in hope of doubling it or reaching some other goal.

    Thus, they want as much Sessions data as possible, including means and standard deviations of amounts won in winning or losing sessions limited in duration by time constraints. Another interesting possibility is allowing the user to set a cut in the minimum bet after a loss of a set percentage of the session bank, e.g. halving the bet when half the session bank is lost.

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    ES
    Guest

    ES: Sessions Data

    Sessions data is important to players who treat each trip bankroll, espceially day-trippers to Atlantic City or other casinos more accessible than Las Vegas, as pin money, easy come-easy go money or the like, as opposed to high stakes professionals playing five- or six-figure bankrolls. The Atlantic City day-tripper may bring only a few hundred dollars with him and be willing to risk this entire amount, hoping to double it. He may go to Atlantic City frequently, e.g. almost every week, or infrequently.

    This type of player is obviously not concerned with low risk of ruin, as presented by Don in Blackjack Attack, but he wants to know the probability of doubling, rather than losing $300 playing at a $10 table with a time constraint of 4 hours, as opposed to playing with the same $300 bankroll at a $15 table for the same 4 hours and to obtain the same probabilities for different numbers of decks, rules, etc. He also wants to know the mean win and loss, as well as the standard deviations, to determine 2/3 and 95% confidence intervals for expected session wins and losses when the bankroll is neither doubled nor lost totally. Can you think of any other useful statistics that CV Data can produce for Sessions?

    > Haven't looked at the session logic in awhile. I'll
    > take a look.

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    myoo
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    myoo: partial knowledge hc

    Hope you don't mind me reiterating an old request: The CVData partial knowledge HC Strat Gen function currently produces a "Known Hole Card"-style chart. But this doesn't make any sense: How can you know that the dealer has, for instance, A4, but also know the hc is either a six, seven, or eight? The ability to sim such a strat would be a welcome addition, too. As would next-card functionality.

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