Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 14 to 26 of 31

Thread: Norm Wattenberger: CV Blackjack Futures

  1. #14
    MJ
    Guest

    MJ: Here is an interesting idea

    > Suppose I add a
    > chat window so users could chat with other users while
    > practicing? This could partially satisfy both. Albeit
    > I would expect little use of the window.

    Did you ever think of setting it up so that several players (each sitting at a different pc) can play simultaneously against the dealer? This way teammates don't have to travel to the same destination to practice together!!!

    For example, if I have 3 friends that play BJ, then I can sit at 1st base, and the other 3 can sit at the seats to my left. You could add this feature so players are connected via the internet. Once we are all logged into the system then the dealer starts to deal. Any betting or playing mistakes by any player and Casey will call it to everyone's attention.

    MJ

  2. #15
    Norm Wattenberger
    Guest

    Norm Wattenberger: Re: Here is an interesting idea

    This is suggested now and again. And in fact I was just looking at it one more time. It's a lot of work since you have to deal with disconnects. And it would probably not be used much. Problem is - it's just too slow. And you want speed for practice.

    > Did you ever think of setting it up so that several
    > players (each sitting at a different pc) can play
    > simultaneously against the dealer? This way teammates
    > don't have to travel to the same destination to
    > practice together!!!

    > For example, if I have 3 friends that play BJ, then I
    > can sit at 1st base, and the other 3 can sit at the
    > seats to my left. You could add this feature so
    > players are connected via the internet. Once we are
    > all logged into the system then the dealer starts to
    > deal. Any betting or playing mistakes by any player
    > and Casey will call it to everyone's attention.

    > MJ

  3. #16
    MJ
    Guest

    MJ: Some ideas

    Ok, let me start by saying I have not used CVBJ in over a year. In the event you added any of this stuff that I am about to suggest, then simply disregard.

    Here they are in no particular order:

    1) A. TC conversion drill- It annoyed the hell out of me b/c half the time was WASTED practicing conversions in negative counts. How many players use negative indices in shoes games??

    PLEASE add a feature which permits the players to do this drill only when RC >=0. The practice time will be much better spent and far more efficient.

    B. Another issue I had with this drill was with the Round to Even. I use conventional rounding like most players and I like to do a drill the same way I would convert to the TC at the table. If you have not already, please add Conventional Rounding to this drill. If my TC = 4.5, I round to 5, NOT 4.

    2) When playing the game, one annoying factor was when my discard estimate was off by 1/2 deck and caused my TC to be off by +/- 1. Casey would then nag me (yellow button would appear) and this would disrupt the continuity and flow of the game. I realize you could set it up so that betting errors are not called to the player's immediate attention, but that is not what I want.

    Ideally, I would like to see leeway given if the bet is off due to the discard estimate being off by +/- 1/2 deck. As long as the bet falls within that range, no flag of any kind should go up. It could not hurt to add this an an OPTION.
    Note: Even if full deck resolution is set, this issue will still arise.

    3) Although I have mentioned this before, I shall reiterate. I think the dealer errors need some work. They occur too infrequently. I remember that there is an option to increase the deck bias so that certain types of hands appear more frequently. WHY do you do allow deck bias--because it makes practice time far more efficient and the player does not have to play through thousands of rounds to get the particular hands he wants.

    Same applies with dealer errors. What good does it do to have to play through 20 shoes to see an error? Seems like a poor use of practice time. You will retort and say this keeps the player on his toes as he will not be on guard. Maybe, but what if he stinks at catching errors? If they are so infrequent, he will not get the practice that he requires to make substantial improvement.

    The MIT Blackjack Team takes dealer errors extremely seriously. In fact, if a testee is ripped off or underpaid even one time by the examiner throughout a grueling trial by fire exam, he FLUNKS!

    4) A. Table drills where the counter scans the table, it would be nice to have this drill in ultra-real mode.

    B. I would like to see an OPTION included where the number of hands is randomly varied from round to round.

    C. I recall the hands at first and third base being dealt vertically. BAD FORM! Please stick to all the hands being dealt diagonally. Otherwise, the dreaded problem of 69 rears its ugly head and it becomes quite confusing.

    Incorporating all or any of these suggestions will go a long way in enhancing the overall quality and realism of CVBJ.

    Regards,
    MJ

  4. #17
    Norm Wattenberger
    Guest

    Norm Wattenberger: Some Answers

    > PLEASE add a feature which permits the players to do
    > this drill only when RC >=0. The practice time will
    > be much better spent and far more efficient.

    Makes sense

    > B. Another issue I had with this drill was with the
    > Round to Even. I use conventional rounding like most
    > players and I like to do a drill the same way I would
    > convert to the TC at the table. If you have not
    > already, please add Conventional Rounding to this
    > drill. If my TC = 4.5, I round to 5, NOT 4.

    This was added last release.

    > 2) When playing the game, one annoying factor was when
    > my discard estimate was off by 1/2 deck and caused my
    > TC to be off by +/- 1. Casey would then nag me (yellow
    > button would appear) and this would disrupt the
    > continuity and flow of the game. I realize you could
    > set it up so that betting errors are not called to the
    > player's immediate attention, but that is not what I
    > want.

    There is a leeway adjustment in the upper right of the TC Calculation screen.

    > 3) Although I have mentioned this before, I shall
    > reiterate. I think the dealer errors need some work.
    > They occur too infrequently. I remember that there is
    > an option to increase the deck bias so that certain
    > types of hands appear more frequently. WHY do you do
    > allow deck bias--because it makes practice time far
    > more efficient and the player does not have to play
    > through thousands of rounds to get the particular
    > hands he wants.

    I'm re-examining the error and bias areas. Actually I want to put more emphasis on these features. I doubt most people know they it exist. Further suggestions are welcome here.

    > 4) A. Table drills where the counter scans the table,
    > it would be nice to have this drill in ultra-real
    > mode.

    Hmmm. None of the drills are in ultra-real mode. Have to think about that.

    > B. I would like to see an OPTION included where the
    > number of hands is randomly varied from round to
    > round.

    Makes sense.

    > C. I recall the hands at first and third base being
    > dealt vertically. BAD FORM! Please stick to all the
    > hands being dealt diagonally. Otherwise, the dreaded
    > problem of 69 rears its ugly head and it becomes quite
    > confusing.

    Actually horizontally to make it more difficult. Perhaps I can deal them sideways diagonally.

  5. #18
    MJ
    Guest

    MJ: Re: Some Answers

    > There is a leeway adjustment in the upper right of the
    > TC Calculation screen.

    Well it has been a while since I used CVBJ, but from what I remember even with the leeway button, there were times when being off by +/- 1/2 deck in the TC conversion resulted in the yellow button appearing. It was really annoying. If there are 4.4 decks in the rack, I might estimate it at 4 decks rather then 4.5. This estimation error can potentially lead to a yellow button appearing when I place my bet.

    > I'm re-examining the error and bias areas. Actually I
    > want to put more emphasis on these features.

    Just what I wanted to hear!

    I think you are all set in the bias area for types of hands dealt. In this area, the sliders produce the bias that I would like to see with sufficient frequency.

    If I recall correctly, there are 7 types of dealer errors. In my experience the one which appeared most frequently was the incorrect payoff on BJ. Errors like trying to push on a player winning hand and taking your money on a push need to occur more frequently. Most counters simply do not have the skills to keep the count, do TC conversions, place proper bets, AND guard against dealer errors so they hope the dealer is honest and does not make mistakes. This is definitely an understudied aspect of the game.

    The bottom line is this--the errors need to NOTICEABLY increase as the slider is moved to the right.

    RULE OF THUMB--If I only select 1 type of dealer error to watch for, and the slider is set all the way to the right, then that error should occur at LEAST 4 times during the course of a shoe (perhaps more).

    One other point. When the player has a winning hand, the dealer should sometimes pass it by and payoff or collect other bets without making the knocking sound for the push. What if the dealer is careless and forgets to give the signal and the player is sleeping?

    > Hmmm. None of the drills are in ultra-real mode. Have
    > to think about that.

    Couldn't hurt.

    With regard to the table drill, I forgot to mention that the hands should NOT always be adjacent to one another. In live play, there will be times when the hands have empty betting spots between them. The drill should be setup to reflect this real world factor. The best thing to do is to give the player the OPTION of selecting whether he wants the hands right next to each other or separated by an empty spot or two.

    I meant to say that the cards at first and third base should be dealt diagonally like the rest of the hands for the table drill.

    Is it possible to change the view of the table to see things from the 3rd base or 1st base perspective? That would enhance the realism to a whole another level!

    MJ

  6. #19
    Norm Wattenberger
    Guest

    Norm Wattenberger: Re: Some Answers

    > Is it possible to change the view of the table to see
    > things from the 3rd base or 1st base perspective? That
    > would enhance the realism to a whole another level!

    There are a few online casinos that do this. It is near impossible to make out the cards at the opposite base. The needed screen resolution just doesn't exist.

  7. #20
    MJ
    Guest

    MJ: Re: Forgot to mention

    One other item with regard to the counting drills.

    If I select to countdown a deck, I pretty much know toward the end of the deck the count will gravitate toward zero. With BJ Counter for Windows, I can select 4 decks and have only 25% of the cards dealt out. This way the 1 deck that is dealt out is pretty much a random deck of cards.

    Same idea with counting down a DD game. If can select 8 decks, with 25% dealt out. Again, the 2 decks will be random and will probably not have a final count of 0.

    Allow different percentages of the shoe to be dealt out for different numbers of decks. Of course the final count should be revealed after however many decks come out.

    MJ

  8. #21
    21forme
    Guest

    21forme: Re: Here is an interesting idea

    I'd like to see some additional, user-defined fields in CVJournal (for example, shift played, ID used, etc.)

  9. #22
    Norm Wattenberger
    Guest

    Norm Wattenberger: That's probably fairly simple *NM*


  10. #23
    ES
    Guest

    ES: Re: CV Blackjack Futures

    My request: All rules for Spanish 21 covered in Katarina Walker's new book.

  11. #24
    Norm Wattenberger
    Guest

    Norm Wattenberger: Re: CV Blackjack Futures

    Have to check with her; but I think they are.

    > My request: All rules for Spanish 21 covered in
    > Katarina Walker's new book.

  12. #25
    Dog Hand
    Guest

    Dog Hand: Including Redouble? *NM*


  13. #26
    Norm Wattenberger
    Guest

    Norm Wattenberger: Yes *NM*


Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

About Blackjack: The Forum

BJTF is an advantage player site based on the principles of comity. That is, civil and considerate behavior for the mutual benefit of all involved. The goal of advantage play is the legal extraction of funds from gaming establishments by gaining a mathematic advantage and developing the skills required to use that advantage. To maximize our success, it is important to understand that we are all on the same side. Personal conflicts simply get in the way of our goals.