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  1. #27
    Parker
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    Parker: Re: Which is the best Linux distro and why?

    I agree with everything paranoid android posted, but have a few thoughts to add.

    > Yes, there is one application that is using
    > a lot of memory (around 30%): Mozilla. I
    > have no problems with my Gnome desktop.

    There isn't any one part of Gnome that is a resource hog, but they do add up. I opened a Gnome session (I normally run KDE, which is a resource hog) and ran top. While no single component of Gnome was using more than 4% of total memory resources, everything that Gnome was running added up to about 15% of total memory. That's a lot, considering that a lightweight GUI such as Fluxbox probably won't use more than 1% or 2%. Of course, I could probably turn off some of the applets and such.

    > I use Mozilla as a mail client and as a
    > browser. If I wanted to use OpenOffice then
    > I must close Mozilla first which is
    > something that bothers me a lot.

    That's just The Way It Is when you're running a system with limited memory. You shut down any unnecessary processes and run one application at a time. As p.a. mentioned, OpenOffice is a real resource hog. You might try the alternatives (Gnumeric for spreadsheets and Abiword for word processing) that he mentioned.

    > I hope to
    > overcome this problem with Gentoo. Also I
    > would like to try SuSE.

    I'm afraid that the applications will use about the same amount of memory regardless of what distro you are running. When I have more time I'll boot up some other systems and compare them, but I'll be surprised if I find any big differences.


  2. #28
    Cacarulo
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    Cacarulo: Re: Which is the best Linux distro and why?

    > You might try the alternatives
    > (Gnumeric for spreadsheets and Abiword for
    > word processing) that he mentioned.

    I do use Gnumeric and Abiword. Also Gnumeric has a built-in solver which you won't find on any other office application, except Excel of course. Not even in StarOffice.
    What would you use to replace the OpenOffice "PowerPoint"? This is the main problem for the use of OpenOffice. If I could get rid of this I would be very happy.

    > I'm afraid that the applications will use
    > about the same amount of memory regardless
    > of what distro you are running. When I have
    > more time I'll boot up some other systems
    > and compare them, but I'll be surprised if I
    > find any big differences.

    Maybe.

    Sincerely,
    Cac

  3. #29
    Parker
    Guest

    Parker: Re: Which is the best Linux distro and why?

    > I do use Gnumeric and Abiword. Also Gnumeric
    > has a built-in solver which you won't find
    > on any other office application, except
    > Excel of course. Not even in StarOffice.

    Interesting - I didn't know that. Of course, you undoubtedly have infinitely more experience with spreadsheets than I do.

    > What would you use to replace the OpenOffice
    > "PowerPoint"? This is the main
    > problem for the use of OpenOffice. If I
    > could get rid of this I would be very happy.

    Here I have to confess that I rarely have the need to do any sort of presentation and when I do it usually involves a chalk board and photocopied handouts. :-)

    Apparently I'm not the only one. A quick Linux Google for presentation programs didn't turn up much, other than the expected links to StarOffice and OpenOffice.org.

    There is KPresenter, which is part of the KDE office suite. Of course, that would necessitate running KDE, which sort of defeats the whole purpose. Also I haven't had any experience with KPresenter, but I have used KWrite, the word processor. It is okay, but not nearly as sophisticated as OpenOffice Write or Abiword.

  4. #30
    Cacarulo
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    Cacarulo: Re: Which is the best Linux distro and why?

    > Interesting - I didn't know that. Of course,
    > you undoubtedly have infinitely more
    > experience with spreadsheets than I do.

    Not that much. Although I certainly use spreadsheets, my experience is quite limited. When I need to do some difficult task I usually seek for help

    > Here I have to confess that I rarely have
    > the need to do any sort of presentation and
    > when I do it usually involves a chalk board
    > and photocopied handouts. :-)

    I don't do any sort of presentations either but I do receive a lot of e-mails with powerpoint attachements. BTW, I hate those e-mails.

    > Apparently I'm not the only one. A quick
    > Linux Google for presentation programs
    > didn't turn up much, other than the expected
    > links to StarOffice and OpenOffice.org.

    > There is KPresenter, which is part of the
    > KDE office suite. Of course, that would
    > necessitate running KDE, which sort of
    > defeats the whole purpose. Also I haven't
    > had any experience with KPresenter, but I
    > have used KWrite, the word processor. It is
    > okay, but not nearly as sophisticated as
    > OpenOffice Write or Abiword.

    I will try KPresenter and see how compatible it is.

    Thanks.

    Sincerely,
    Cac

  5. #31
    paranoid android
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    paranoid android: Re: Which is the best Linux distro and why?

    > There is KPresenter, which is part of the
    > KDE office suite. Of course, that would
    > necessitate running KDE

    Not exactly. You don't need to run the KDE desktop to run KDE apps nor do you need to run the Gnome desktop to run Gnome apps. You only need the appropriate libs installed. If you can get by with KPresenter, I'm guessing it will require less RAM than the OpenOffice equivalent, although last I heard, the KDE office apps were still not very mature. Although I've not used KPresenter (nor any presentation software for that matter).

  6. #32
    Cacarulo
    Guest

    Cacarulo: Re: Which is the best Linux distro and why?

    > I will try KPresenter and see how compatible
    > it is.

    Bad news: KPresenter doesn't support powerpoint files.

    Cac

  7. #33
    spineless jellyfish
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    spineless jellyfish: Re: Linux Open Office vs MS Powerpoint

    Reviving a dead thread.

    > What would you use to replace the OpenOffice
    > "PowerPoint"? This is the main
    > problem for the use of OpenOffice. If I
    > could get rid of this I would be very happy.

    I am a dedicated Linux user at home (MS at work). There are two options in dealing with "Impress" which is the OpenOffice version of Powerpoint.

    The main problem I have had is the 3d generator for charts. There are visual spikes or the charts are just really screwed up visually.

    Solution 1 (the more difficult), is to rebuild the charts from the background spreadsheet (which can be a pain).

    Solution 2 (far easier), is done at the MS Powerpoint level. Rather than copy charts, and the entire excel file behind it (which can be bad if there is some proprietary data on the spreadsheet), export the chart as an image into powerpoint (in excel, select chart, hit "copy", in powerpoint, hit "paste special" and paste as image). This has the advantage of significantly reducing the size of the powerpoint file.

    You may end up with "spikes" or other phenomena. In "Impress" right click the image (chart) and select "break." The phenomena is gone and the image is fully editable.

  8. #34
    Parker
    Guest

    Parker: Thanks

    > Reviving a dead thread.

    Not dead . . . just, um, . . . dormant. :-)

    > I am a dedicated Linux user at home (MS at
    > work).

    Glad to hear it. Are you also a card counter? If so, you belong to the extremely elite (or "l33t," as the hackers say) group of Linux geek card counters. I think that there are about 6 of us in the entire world - a niche within a niche. This makes it extremely difficult to convince people like Norm that he really needs to port Casino Verite products to Linux.

    Anyway, thanks for the tip. As I mentioned in the original thread, I don't use presentation software much, but hopefully Cacarulo and others will find it helpful.


  9. #35
    spineless jellyfish
    Guest

    spineless jellyfish: Re: Thanks

    > Not dead . . . just, um, . . . dormant. :-)

    > Glad to hear it. Are you also a card
    > counter? If so, you belong to the extremely
    > elite (or "l33t," as the hackers
    > say) group of Linux geek card counters. I
    > think that there are about 6 of us in the
    > entire world - a niche within a niche. This
    > makes it extremely difficult to convince
    > people like Norm that he really needs to
    > port Casino Verite products to Linux.

    I count, but don't get to the tables too often.

    I found the original post while searching for Linux to see if Casino Verite could be ported. Fedora Core 2 btw.

    -SJ

    p.s. Great site

  10. #36
    id
    Guest

    id: Freebsd


    link below.

    -James



  11. #37
    Cacarulo
    Guest

    Cacarulo: Re: Linux Open Office vs MS Powerpoint

    > Reviving a dead thread.

    > I am a dedicated Linux user at home (MS at
    > work). There are two options in dealing with
    > "Impress" which is the OpenOffice
    > version of Powerpoint.

    > The main problem I have had is the 3d
    > generator for charts. There are visual
    > spikes or the charts are just really screwed
    > up visually.

    > Solution 1 (the more difficult), is to
    > rebuild the charts from the background
    > spreadsheet (which can be a pain).

    > Solution 2 (far easier), is done at the MS
    > Powerpoint level. Rather than copy charts,
    > and the entire excel file behind it (which
    > can be bad if there is some proprietary data
    > on the spreadsheet), export the chart as an
    > image into powerpoint (in excel, select
    > chart, hit "copy", in powerpoint,
    > hit "paste special" and paste as
    > image). This has the advantage of
    > significantly reducing the size of the
    > powerpoint file.

    > You may end up with "spikes" or
    > other phenomena. In "Impress"
    > right click the image (chart) and select
    > "break." The phenomena is gone and
    > the image is fully editable.

    Although it doesn't solve my problem, thanks for the tip!

    Sincerely,
    Cac

  12. #38
    Cacarulo
    Guest

    Cacarulo: Re: Freebsd

    > If you like the idea of a source compiled
    > system for speed, you may consider FreeBSD.
    > It has pretty much everything Linux does,
    > and is way easier to keep up to date than
    > most Linux distros (and has better
    > documentation for the most part).

    > link below.

    Will take a look. Thank you.

    Sincerely,
    Cac

  13. #39
    elmo
    Guest

    elmo: Re: Freebsd

    FreeBSD is a great choise. Expecially if you plan to configure you system yourself.

    Slackware is another if you like to compile every thing from the source code.

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