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Thread: Don Schlesinger: WORD question

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    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: WORD question

    I prefer using Word 97, rather than a more recent version, Word 2000. All of my saved documents are in the WORD 97 format.

    Yesterday, someone sent me a document written in WORD 2000, and when I downloaded it, it opened up a WORD 2000 version, to read it.

    Much to my surprise, when I now go to My Documents, all of my stored WORD documents have been changed to WORD 2000, which I very definitely DON'T want to keep that way.

    How can I change them all back to WORD 97, and how can I avoid something like this happening again?

    Thanks for any advice.

    Don

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    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Clarification

    The Word 97 icon, on my desktop, still opens and produces the Word 97 application. In it, I can access all Word documents and open them in Word 97, as always.

    But, in the My Documents folder, on the desktop, all the existing documents in all the folders, or by themselves, have now been changed to Word 2000.
    What a pain!

    There is a way to assure that, when someone sends me a Word document, as a download, when I upload it, it will be forced into Word 97 and NOT Word 2000. Someone did that for me, but I seem to have lost that feature, and, in the process, my Word documents, in MY Documents, have been "transformed" or "converted."

    Any help will be much appreciated.

    Don

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    Alan
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    Alan: Re: Clarification

    Hi Don,

    You might want to try the following:

    Open "Word"
    Select Tools, Options, Save and then go down to "Save Word files as":

    Then select your preferred file default format.

    Hope it works.

    Regards,

    Alan

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    Parker
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    Parker: Word and Microsoft

    This is just Microsoft's subtle way of suggesting to you that you should consider upgrading. :-P

    I hope Alan's suggestion works, because I cannot be of much help here. I am one of the few people left on the planet that does not use Word.

    Word is a good example of Microsoft's heavy-handed marketing techniques. They look the other way as widespread piracy occurs, allowing them to become the de facto industry standard. Every upgrade changes the document format, forcing people to upgrade. Now that they have a virtual monopoly, they are starting to enforce licensing laws.

    Remember the Good Old Days, when WordPerfect was the dominant word processor? I still use it at my office.

    At home, I find that a little freeware word processor called AbiWord is adequate for my needs.

    Both WordPerfect and AbiWord have the advantage of being available in both Windows and Linux versions. Both will open Word documents, although they cannot save documents in this format.

    StarOffice, from Sun Microsystems, is another office application suite that is available in both Windows and Linux versions and is supposed to handle Word documents quite well, although I have not had a chance to play with it much.

    Of course, all you want is a fix for your problem, not a political rant or a new word processor to learn!

    Now that I've been of no help whatsoever, I'd like to mention that this is exactly the sort of question that I'd like to encourage in this forum. :-)

    Hopefully someone can jump in and help me out here.


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    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Re: Clarification

    > Then select your preferred file default
    > format.

    > Hope it works.

    Word document (*.doc) has been chosen. But, nowhere does it look like I have a choice between Word 97 and Word 2000.

    I rebooted the computer and all the Word 2000 documents changed back to Word 97 ones! And you want to know why I hate computers!! They do the most ridiculous things!

    So, when all else fails, I turn the damn thing off and, 99 times out of 100, my problem gets solved -- which has led to my motto: When in doubt, pull the plug out"!!

    Go figure!

    Don

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    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Re: Word and Microsoft

    > Now that I've been of no help whatsoever,
    > I'd like to mention that this is exactly the
    > sort of question that I'd like to encourage
    > in this forum. :-)

    You can't imagine how happy I am to have a page and resource such as this one. I think it will prove invaluable to me over time. Admittedly, it really has nothing to do with blackjack, but if it can help me navigate my way through cyberspace a little better, perhaps, indirectly, it will help me to be of more help to others.

    I prefer Word 97 to Word 2000, because, when I acquired the latter, I noticed that they had changed several things from the older version that I liked and that were no longer available -- the old "dying of improvements." So, I decided to keep the older version, and it suits me just fine.

    Don

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    Parker
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    Parker: Ravings

    I'm glad you were able to resolve the problem. Hold on a second while I step up on my soapbox.

    And you want to know why I hate computers!! They do the most ridiculous things!

    It doesn't have to be that way!

    What you perceive as computer problems are, in reality, Windows problems.

    Suppose you bought a car and discovered that it would periodically coast to a stop. In order to get moving again, you would have to roll up all the windows, shut it off, and restart it. You talked to other owners of this model and found that they all considered this acceptable behavior.

    It has been a couple of months since I have had any reason to re-boot my Linux system. The router /firewall that I use to connect my home network to the cable modem has been perking away for over a year - since the last time we had a power failure. It runs a stripped-down version of Linux.

    I'm not suggesting that you (or anyone else) immediately re-format your hard drive and install some variety of Linux. Just be aware that you don't have to put up with crashing systems, expensive upgrades, and one-size-fits-all applications.

    The only reason I still have one Windows computer is because I need to run applications like Casino Verite and BJRM2000, and I have had no luck at all convincing Norm, John, Karel, etc., that they should port their products to Linux. Yes, I have an ulterior motive for creating this forum.

    Okay, I'll get off the soapbox - for now. :-)

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    Parker
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    Parker: Upgrades

    I prefer Word 97 to Word 2000, because, when I acquired the latter, I noticed that they had changed several things from the older version that I liked and that were no longer available -- the old "dying of improvements." So, I decided to keep the older version, and it suits me just fine.

    Indeed. I do not subscribe to the "newer is better " philosophy. Actually, my philosophy is more like, "If it's working (and does what you want it to do), don't f*** with it!"

    Some of my biggest computer-related headaches have come from an attempt to upgrade. And that applies to Linux as well as Windows.

    I hope that this forum will provide a useful service to the advantage player community. Eventually, I will get some new software and we might even discuss something related to blackjack!

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    Norm Wattenberger
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    Norm Wattenberger: Ravings II

    It doesn't have to be that way!

    Agree completely. When you buy a large IBM mainframe; it is plugged in and 5-10 years later unplugged. In between, it will not crash. If you take a high-powered rifle and fire into it, two things will happen. The computer will send a message to the operator (in another room since humans are rarely allowed in machine rooms) stating that it has experienced hardware failures and has rerouted services around the failures and the computer will call IBM and provide a list of parts in need of replacement. Work will continue without any reduction in speed. Burn down the building and a computer in another power grid will detect the problem and take over.

    Now I don't expect a PC to perform like a mainframe. But, a day doesn't go by where I don't curse Bill gates. I run Windows 2000 Server SP2, receive monthly updates for all Windows versions and still crash every day. I use Word 2002 and still have problems with serious bugs. (Don, you saw one of these when you pointed out the page numbers in the CVData manual index weren't right. That's a serious bug for a mature product.)

    Problem is, although Bill Gates is famous for selling a terrible operating system and continually selling people upgrades that don't help, he still has nearly the entire market. UNIX in all its forms has 1% of the desktop market. I can't see anyone developing software for that small a market. It would be cheaper for me to buy PCs for UNIX users.

    regards,
    norm

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    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Re: Ravings II

    I'm glad to know that someone as knowledgeable as you are about computers experiences all of the aggravation that I do. Makes me think less it's because of my computer illiteracy and more because the software created for them SUCKS!!

    Don

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    Parker
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    Parker: Re: Ravings II

    > Problem is, although Bill Gates is famous
    > for selling a terrible operating system and
    > continually selling people upgrades that
    > don't help, he still has nearly the entire
    > market. UNIX in all its forms has 1% of the
    > desktop market. I can't see anyone
    > developing software for that small a market.
    > It would be cheaper for me to buy PCs for
    > UNIX users.

    Sad but true. There is no money in developing software for Linux (or other flavors of UNIX). It must be done for other reasons, otherwise Microsoft will only strengthen their monopoly. Despite the lack of financial incentive, there is still some pretty decent software out there, such as Opera, Mozilla, StarOffice, WordPerfect, etc.

    Of course, the problem is even worse for advantage play software, since it has an extremely narrow market to begin with. The number of serious advantage players who are also Linux geeks is probably still in single digits! :-)

    The world needs more programmers with too much time on their hands!

    BTW, I would like to personally thank you for your participation in this forum. Your presence is greatly appreciated by everyone here.

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    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Not right, after all

    > I rebooted the computer and all the Word
    > 2000 documents changed back to Word 97 ones!
    > And you want to know why I hate computers!!
    > They do the most ridiculous things!

    Unfortunately, I got faked out here. The icons are, indeed, the old, Word 97 ones. They changed back, from the Word 2000 ones. But, when you go to open such a document, the computer attempts to install Word 2000 (which is also on my computer), and would open the document in 2000, if I let it.

    If I want to open an old document in Word 97, I have to first open the application, and then choose the document from there, as opposed to choosing it from My Documents, on the desktop.

    I find this quite ridiculous. There IS a way to change them back, but I don't know how to do it.

    Don

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    T. Hopper
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    T. Hopper: Here's how

    > If I want to open an old document in Word
    > 97, I have to first open the application,
    > and then choose the document from there, as
    > opposed to choosing it from My Documents, on
    > the desktop.

    > I find this quite ridiculous. There IS a
    > way to change them back, but I don't know
    > how to do it.

    Click on the Start button
    Select Settings
    Select Folder Options
    Select File Types
    Scroll down and select "Microsoft Word Document"
    Click on Edit
    Click on Edit again on the "Edit File Type Screen"
    Change the disk location in the "Application used to perform action" box

    This works on Windows 98. If you have a different version, the process should be similar.

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