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  1. #14
    YaleMoto
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    YaleMoto: Re: I'm with Parker on this

    > Anything is possible, and Indian casinos can be
    > whacky. But this doesn't pass my smell test.
    > If it's on the level, the comments by Parker, Coug and
    > Monkey are excellent.
    > But deeply dealt DD's? 1-20, for 4 days?? Sniff-sniff.

    Keep sniffing instead of playing. Maybe the casino won't change this game and I can go back and play it in 6 months.

    At another Indian Casino I have been spreading 1-20 for months with two long (6-8 hours) sessions per week. Penetration varies by dealers (who keep their own tokes) from 50% to 80%. No sniff.

    > Wait a minute, you're using a PROGRESSION system? In a
    > non-AP'able game? 30 units? Sniff-sniff

    On using a progression for cover see Arnold Snyder's article on Oscar's Grind at blackjackforumonline. Baccarat is countable but the counting of baccarat is not very profitable - see Thorp's Mathematics of Gambling and Peter Griffin's Theory of Blackjack. On using baccarat for cover see Ian Anderson's Burning the Tables. The 1-30 spread that I referred to obviously related to blackjack; you don't spread bets as in blackjack using Oscar's Grind to play baccarat.

    > Maybe on an average California table you can do that
    > with a good act for 40 minutes. But allegedly doing
    > that on the best game -by far- in the whole STATE, for
    > 4 days... that takes more than table image and act.
    > I'm skeptical that a progression player can pull off
    > an AP move like that.

    Calling me a progression player is like calling Ian Anderson a baccarat player.

    > I agree with the poster below, that if all that
    > happened is they verbally 'implied' you were cheating,
    > with NO physical contact or detention, it ain't that
    > bad. Roll with it. Even a 1-800-THE-LAW-2 lawyer
    > wouldn't pursue a case that weak.
    > Fuggedaboudit.

    "It ain't that bad" ain't a legal analysis.

  2. #15
    Enzo
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    Enzo: I am surprised Parker and Mr. X haven't posted...

    Apologies to YaleMoto by now! If this were a newspaper, a retraction would be in order!

    I am 99% sure I know the game he is referring to and I have been playing the place for months. It is exactly what he described both in terms of penetration and tolerance with huge spread and marathon sessions. Assuming it is the game I think it is the limiting factor for a lot of players will be bank roll requirement and table minimum.

    Regards,

    Enzo

    Anything is possible, and Indian casinos can be
    > whacky. But this doesn't pass my smell test.
    > If it's on the level, the comments by Parker, Coug and
    > Monkey are excellent.
    > But deeply dealt DD's? 1-20, for 4 days?? Sniff-sniff.

    > Wait a minute, you're using a PROGRESSION system? In a
    > non-AP'able game? 30 units? Sniff-sniff

    > Maybe on an average California table you can do that
    > with a good act for 40 minutes. But allegedly doing
    > that on the best game -by far- in the whole STATE, for
    > 4 days... that takes more than table image and act.
    > I'm skeptical that a progression player can pull off
    > an AP move like that.

    > I agree with the poster below, that if all that
    > happened is they verbally 'implied' you were cheating,
    > with NO physical contact or detention, it ain't that
    > bad. Roll with it. Even a 1-800-THE-LAW-2 lawyer
    > wouldn't pursue a case that weak.
    > Fuggedaboudit.

  3. #16
    Yale Moto
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    Yale Moto: Re: I am surprised Parker and Mr. X haven't posted...

    It is not the game you think it is, but thanks for the support Enzo. After being backed off I received several invitations in the mail to come and play. I went back and played one two hour session with a 1 to 11 spread and a four hour session with a 1 to 15 spread. In the second session I played with a guy who would not turn over his bust cards (like a poker player), and the casino allowed him to hide his bust cards after I complained. I still went up numerous units.

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