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    thall
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    thall: added advantage with math support?

    Just curious.. Been playing off & on for 20 years (RPC) but never really got into the math of RoR, EV, and others that I could get with CVCX (though I do own BJA). Always counted, covered, played indicies from +6 to -6, spread 1-10, tried to pick favorable games, occasionally took a short term beating (but only once did I approach losing my trip bank of 200 units, though a big rally brought me back to even for that trip) and thought thats all there was to it. Though I rarely made more than 3-4 trips per year for bj I may be moving to KC very soon and have casinos next door. I currently own CV. My question-would it add significantly to my game to have CVCX to calculate these or is it just more fun to know the EV, RoR, and other abbreviations for stats I may not understand? Also, since 6 deck is the easiest to play now, does Wonging add enough to make it worth the down time?

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    stainless steel rat
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    stainless steel rat: Re: added advantage with math support?

    > Just curious.. Been playing off & on
    > for 20 years (RPC) but never really got into
    > the math of RoR, EV, and others that I could
    > get with CVCX (though I do own BJA). Always
    > counted, covered, played indicies from +6 to
    > -6, spread 1-10, tried to pick favorable
    > games, occasionally took a short term
    > beating (but only once did I approach losing
    > my trip bank of 200 units, though a big
    > rally brought me back to even for that trip)
    > and thought thats all there was to it.
    > Though I rarely made more than 3-4 trips per
    > year for bj I may be moving to KC very soon
    > and have casinos next door. I currently own
    > CV. My question-would it add significantly
    > to my game to have CVCX to calculate these
    > or is it just more fun to know the EV, RoR,
    > and other abbreviations for stats I may not
    > understand? Also, since 6 deck is the
    > easiest to play now, does Wonging add enough
    > to make it worth the down time?

    If you look at my post about CVCX above, I believe it is highly worthwhile. You can enter the precise game rules, and see the optimal betting ramp, EV, etc. And you can try a more "sane" betting ramp for cover, and see what it does to your EV.

    I've learned more about the game itself with this program than I did playing, because now I can get the actual answers to such questions as "how will my 1-2-4-8 bet ramp work here as opposed to the optimal 1-7-8 ramp that CVCX thinks I should play for optimal EV?"

    For any set of rules, you can find the optimal for everything, and then tune it so you can live with it, and in that process of "tuning" you will know exactly what it does to your EV, rather than using the SWAG approach that I have used for so long myself...

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    Parker
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    Parker: Re: added advantage with math support?

    > Just curious.. Been playing off & on
    > for 20 years (RPC) but never really got into
    > the math of RoR, EV, and others that I could
    > get with CVCX (though I do own BJA). Always
    > counted, covered, played indicies from +6 to
    > -6, spread 1-10, tried to pick favorable
    > games, occasionally took a short term
    > beating (but only once did I approach losing
    > my trip bank of 200 units, though a big
    > rally brought me back to even for that trip)
    > and thought thats all there was to it.
    > Though I rarely made more than 3-4 trips per
    > year for bj I may be moving to KC very soon
    > and have casinos next door. I currently own
    > CV. My question-would it add significantly
    > to my game to have CVCX to calculate these
    > or is it just more fun to know the EV, RoR,
    > and other abbreviations for stats I may not
    > understand? Also, since 6 deck is the
    > easiest to play now, does Wonging add enough
    > to make it worth the down time?

    Well, you can hope you get an answer, and hope that the person providing it is knowledgeable, and hope that his views on the game coincide with yours.

    Or you can input the exact game conditions into CVCX, compare the EV for play-all to wonging, and draw your own informed conclusion.

    In other words, CVCX is an indespensible tool for anyone serious about the game.


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