
BK: Good Question?
Hi,
I'm using the hilo system now, been practicing like 8 hours a day for a few months. Its pretty easy and everything, but there are just to many systems out there. I'm also afraid of making a mistake converting to the true count. I think I would make quite a few errors during casino play.
Anyway my question is, should I switch to a new system such as the KO Preferred system or is that a crappy one?
I would appreciate any imput on this, thanks.

Parker: Sure
> Hi,
> I'm using the hilo system now, been
> practicing like 8 hours a day for a few
> months. Its pretty easy and everything, but
> there are just to many systems out there.
> I'm also afraid of making a mistake
> converting to the true count. I think I
> would make quite a few errors during casino
> play.
> Anyway my question is, should I switch to a
> new system such as the KO Preferred system
> or is that a crappy one?
> I would appreciate any imput on this,
> thanks.
People love to endlessly debate the merits of the different counting systems on boards such as this, but the truth is that the choice of counting systems isn't really even one of your most important decisions.
All level one systems, balanced or unbalanced, perform roughly the same. It really doesn't make a lot of difference which one you learn  all the popular systems will get the job done.
If you are experiencing problems with the true count conversion, by all means consider switching to KO or Red 7. That is exactly what these counts were designed for.
One other thought: If you actually have been practicing "8 hours a day for a few months" you really need to get a life!

Dave: Re: Sure
I am a newbie as well and have decided on hilo after looking at many other counting systems. I think you should stick with HiLo. Are you having problems with half deck conversions. What I do is if it is closer to 4 decks remaining but you know it is a little less like 3.6 or something, just use 4. In other words, in 6 deck games, I don't bother with half deck conversions. Do you have software that you can practice on? I think this makes a world of difference. I made my own blackjack game and am practicing with that.

BK: Re: Sure
Hi Mr. Parker,
I thank you for your imput. I practice at my office, since I am president I have time for that. I also practice when I get home for a few hours. I dont't practice on weekends sir.
As far as the get a life thing. I get laid and thats all that really matters. Why do you seem to be a asshole, when all I asked was a question?
Thanks again,
Barry

Parker: Re: Sure
> Hi Mr. Parker,
> I thank you for your imput. I practice at my
> office, since I am president I have time for
> that. I also practice when I get home for a
> few hours. I dont't practice on weekends
> sir.
> As far as the get a life thing. I get laid
> and thats all that really matters. Why do
> you seem to be a asshole, when all I asked
> was a question?
> Thanks again,
> Barry
I answered your question in complete seriousness. My "get a life" comment at the end was meant in a goodnatured, humorous manner. I meant to end it with a "smiley" :) but I see that I neglected to do that.
It was not my intent to offend. Please accept my apologies.

Bert Nommel: Tip for TC conversion
Her is a way to make TC conversion with using division. I think I read this in Blackbelt in BJ, by Snyder.
Running Count (at which you make strategy departure) = Index * #decks remaining
Thus just mulitply remaining decks by your index and you get the RC at which you make your strategy departure. Many find multiplication easier than division.
Example. Insu = +4 and there are 1.5 decks left. 1.5 x 4 = 6. So, if RC is 6 or greater, take insurance.
Bert

BK: Re: Sure
Hi,
I understand, I guess I just took it the wrong way. Thats why I stay off AIM and ICQ, you cant hear the person laugh. Me and my partner got into major fights on AIM and ICQ later to pick up the phone and laugh, lol.
Well its great to get advice from everyone and wish you all the best for the holidays!
Thanks again.
BK

BK: Re: Sure
Hey Dave,
I got lots of software and some better than others. I do practice with software and I remember reading in one of Wongs books the numbers to round to.
I plan on rereading all his books again in a few days. Right now Im burning the strategy numbers into my brain, so I don't have to get them tattooed on the backs of my eyelids, lol.
Thanks again for your advice! =))

BK: Re: Tip for TC conversion
Hey Bert,
Wow that sounds much easier. I will have to get that book and check it out.
That would make a real big difference.
Thanks,
BK

BK: Re: Tip for TC conversion?
Hey Bert,
After thinking about it, your way to get the true count makes not much sense. I think you did not understand my question.
It was a problem getting the true count from my running count. If there is a way to get it through multiplication of the running count times the number of decks left, it just does'nt make any sense to me.
If it was for insurance bets, I would rather have my freind use the ten count while playing next to me or insure on +3 true counts.
Maybe you could explain it a little more or break out that book. I just got Blackjack Attack and am going to be reading it for awhile. I'm going to order Blackbelt in BJ today, just to see what you are talking about though.
Thanks again,
BK
> Hey Bert,
> Wow that sounds much easier. I will have to
> get that book and check it out.
> That would make a real big difference.
> Thanks,
> BK

BK: Bert?
Hi,
After reading through the Professional Balckjack book by Mr. Wong. I found the following:
The running count is now +2. Since about 2/3 of the deck reamains unseen in a one deck game, you divide by 2/3. This is the same as multiplying by 3/2. It gives a true count of +3.
I can see the math works out for the equation above, but what if the running count was +5 in a 8 deck game and 6.5 decks remain unseen.
Can I use multiplication for a eight deck game to get the true count or can it only be used in a one deck game?
Thanks,
BK
P.S. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

Bert Nommel: Re: Tip for TC conversion?
BK,
TC = RC / #remaining decks
Suppose you Insurance index is 3 and there is 2.5 decks left. You'r running count is 8.
8/2.5 = 3.2, so you take insurance.
Another way is: TC x #remaing decks = RC
Since when the TC = index you make the strategy deviation:
Index x #remaing decks = RC
So, 3 x 2.5 = 7.5
Since your running count is greater than 7.5 you take insurance.
In summary, multiply your Index for the play by #remaing decks. This gives you the RC needed to make the strategy deviation.
One more example. You have 12 and dealer has 6 up. Suppose your index for this is 8. The RC is 15. There is 1.75 decks left to be dealt.
1.75 x 8 = 14
Since 15, the running count is less than 14 you hit.
Bert

Bert Nommel: C
With the method I have described, you are not multiplying to get a TC, you are multiplying to get a RC value at which you make your strategy deviation. You compare this number to your running count to see if you should deviate from basic strategy.
TC = RC/#remaing decks
multiply each side by #remaing decks, to get
TC x #remaing decks = RC
Notice that if you multiply your INDEX by #remaing decks you will get a RC value at which you would deviate from basic strategy. You compare this number to your actual RC.
Example: RC is 26 in 8 deck game. Dealer has Ace up. Insurance index is 3. 6.5 decks left.
6.5 x 3 = 19.5
Since your running count is greater than 19.5 you take insurance. 26 > 19.5 take insurance.
So, if you wish to multiply, rather than divide then do the following: multiply your INDEX for the play you are considering by the #remaining decks. This gives you a RC at which you deviate from basic strategy. Compare this number to your RC and play accordingly.
Bert
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