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    ID'ed at Cashier's Cage

    I was recently asked for ID when cashing out for $1200. I've never encountered such a request with that low of an amount before. Although I was told it was standard procedure, I might be tempted to think it was indicative of heat rather than moronics - except for the fact that at another point I was informed by a security guard that I couldn't leave the casino with a can of soda that I purchased there... the fail is strong with that one.

    Any thoughts or similar experiences?

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    Reminds me of when I took a peek inside an Indian casino in rural OK, I got a free cup of pop as I was scoping the place out. Guard wouldn't let me leave with it.

    I set it on the floor, then I left.

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    I think the ID requirement differs by casino, this particular one may have a limit of $1000 before requesting ID.

    The no-leave-with-drink rule is not unusual. It is probably their policy not to let anyone leave with 'any' drink because it is illegal to take an alcoholic drink outside the casino (unless they have designated roped off section on sidewalk). The guard doesn't know whether your drink is alcoholic or not (I've seen people hide alcohol in soda cans), so it is simpler to deny everyone exit with drink. It also helps keep litter out of the parking lot and front sidewalk.

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    Chip,

    I have had this request on several occasions and I just say "no". What if they told you standard procedure was also to frisk you for hidden chips,, would you just comply as if a spinless wimp?

    You have a right to privacy and it is not a law to show id TO CASH THAT AMOUNT.

    Once I have stood my ground, with a stern reply and look, they backed down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom View Post
    The no-leave-with-drink rule is not unusual.
    I used to take bags full of Foxwoods water bottles home, so it came as a bit of a surprise to me. A "no alcoholic beverages beyond this point" sign is about the most I've ever seen. They sell non-alcoholic drinks in kiosks and stores off the gaming floor, and you can carry them onto and off the floor and out of the casino as you please. I think that the staff at smaller casinos might have more free time on their hands to get in your face with senseless hassles. Then again, Foxwoods is an Indian joint, so maybe they just don't give a sh*t.

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    Each casino differs in policy. Generally the larger the joint, the higher the ID limits are for chip cashouts. It can be a good idea to cash out small(er) initially, so you can avoid hitting that ID cashout limit at the cage. Pay close attention while in line, maybe you can discover what the ID cashout limit is from another person that's cashing out?

    ID procedure on cashout may depend on a certain cashout level, or if you decide to cashout a certain chip color. I wouldn't sweat the soda can incident with the security guard. Just keep your eye out for finding out what the casinos cashout procedures are. Understanding what the casino's table max's are, may provide you a clue as to what their cashout procedures are...

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    That is a fairly low number. If it's an Indian joint, you have no recourse. If not, tell them you don't have ID with you and if they hassle you, call Gaming. Or just walk away, come back a little later and cash out half at a time.

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    Or, just give them ID if you didn't get heat. Is it worth creating a stink over?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moo321 View Post
    Or, just give them ID if you didn't get heat. Is it worth creating a stink over?
    Moo,

    I would ask that question of the Casino. I know for a fact they have threatened arrest on the Rez for refusing to show ID at the cage for a $950 cash out. Now that is a real smelly stink!

    Ouchez

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    This happened to me some time ago at a non rez joint for 8 or 900 bucks in chips. They told me it was because I looked too young. I am not very young though and was able to play without ID. Later I found out with 100 percent certainty it was heat related.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Guy View Post
    This happened to me some time ago at a non rez joint for 8 or 900 bucks in chips. They told me it was because I looked too young. I am not very young though and was able to play without ID. Later I found out with 100 percent certainty it was heat related.
    I like it, you're old looking enough to play but too young to cash out. Just like how at many places you can buy-in for $9,990 with no ID or players card needed but it takes an act of Congress for them to pay you $1,500 at the cage without showing players card or ID. It's really all about leverage. At the tables you have it, at the cage the casino has it.

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    ID requirements at the cashier, depending on the location, are primarily based on the $ amount cashed. Some smaller places can be $1k-$1.5k, some can be $2.5k, others can be higher. Also, if you look young, you can be asked for ID multiple times even if you're seeing playing at other tables or have a players card. Lastly, some chip denominations can trigger an ID request.

    That being said, there is always the possibility the pit phoned the cage and asked to get your ID if you didn't show it earlier or didn't have a players card.

    You can always refuse ID (politely decline), or find some way to back out of your cashing request and come back later or with less chips. Or have someone else cash them out, if possible.
    You don't score, until you SCORE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouchez View Post
    I know for a fact they have threatened arrest on the Rez for refusing to show ID at the cage for a $950 cash out.
    "You're under arrest."

    "What's the charge?"

    "You didn't lose all your money. That's a serious offense here."

    Certain casinos, including lots of Indian casinos but not limited to that group, have apparently decided that they don't mind pissing off a substantial part of their customer base, as the price of making life miserable for anyone who might have a brain.

    Oklahoma in general has a reputation for being hazardous.

    A lot of casinos have a $3,000 threshold for demanding identification on cashout. That means if you present exactly $3,000, or more. But even in big markets, it can be less in the sweatier low-roller places. I clearly remember one time that the Orleans in Las Vegas CALLED THE PIT when I presented $1,600 black.

    In Nevada, it's a rare case where you risk actually losing your money. The worst case scenario is generally that gaming will back you up, but you'll have to out yourself to get gaming's help. In Indian territory, anything's possible. Wherever you go, the routine is going to be similar. Decide how much you want to present at the cage at one time. If they ask for ID, you say no. If they back down, great. If they don't back down, you have to decide if you'll back down. If you don't, and if all has gone well to this point, the chips will still be in reach, and you can collect them and head out, intending to deal with it all later. Realize that in Indian territory, they just might tackle you before you reach the door.

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