jimmtech: Tunica Single Deck

[jimmtech]

Last week I visited Tunica, MS - Fitzgeralds has a lot of billboards promoting full pay single deck - it seems like casinos here think promoting single deck will bring in new business. I usually play shoes but decided to check out Single Deck at the Gold Strike. I watched a full table (5 players) - I was astonished that the dealer didn't even place a cut card! She shuffled after every round! 19 cards dealt, then shuffle! 17 cards dealt then shuffle! This really sucks - short of sitting at 3rd base, shuffle tracking or Ace predicting - isn't this just throwing your money away??? Is this typical of SD these days?

[Ouchez]

What were the rules?

The casinos are just too greedy today and the customer just way to ignorant,(in fact, most people today are very stupid and ignorant), as to what is happening. Never ceases to amaze me. Sad, sad, sad.

Ouchez.

[ShoelessD]

> What were the rules?

> The casinos are just too greedy today and the customer
> just way to ignorant,(in fact, most people today are
> very stupid and ignorant), as to what is happening.
> Never ceases to amaze me. Sad, sad, sad.

> Ouchez.

On the contrary, people today are much more astute than ever. There have been casual, have a good time, type players since day one. Apparantly, they will never stop amazing you. Always has been, always will be, but the number of AP's has never been greater.

The game has become much tougher to beat. Even if your skills are superior, you still can lose money very easily with todays games.

[Sun Runner]

> On the contrary, people today are much more astute than ever.
> There have been casual, have a good time, type players since day one.

Not trying to be argumentative but when a casino can open a pit of 6:5 SD, advertise full-pay BJ then deal 17, 18, maybe 19 cards per shuffle, deal 4:6 out of a shoe, and most times you can't find a seat if you wanted one, I'm siding with Ouchez.

There may be more APs out there than before but with the advent of gambling going nationwide while being all over television, for every new wise guy I bet there are 100 new suckers.

> Apparantly, they will never stop amazing you.

Yes, I'm still amazed when I watch them.

[Parker]

> Last week I visited Tunica, MS - Fitzgeralds has a lot
> of billboards promoting full pay single deck - it
> seems like casinos here think promoting single deck
> will bring in new business. I usually play shoes but
> decided to check out Single Deck at the Gold Strike. I
> watched a full table (5 players) - I was astonished
> that the dealer didn't even place a cut card! She
> shuffled after every round! 19 cards dealt, then
> shuffle! 17 cards dealt then shuffle! This really
> sucks - short of sitting at 3rd base, shuffle tracking
> or Ace predicting - isn't this just throwing your
> money away??? Is this typical of SD these days?

Unfortunately, this situation is not limited to Tunica. Some of the few casinos left in Las Vegas that still offer a table or two of "real" (meaning 3:2 BJ payout) single deck will shuffle after each round when dealing to a full table.

The only way to play these games is during off hours when you can find a less-crowded table, and you must be prepared to walk the moment that the table is filled up.

Real single deck is an endangered species these days, and the casinos are smart enough to know that these games will be a magnet for skilled players.

I think that the casinos use them as a sort of "loss leader." People make the trip to the casino for the single deck game, find no empty seats at the table, and (so the casino hopes) instead play one of the less attractive games.

OTOH, I suppose the fact that the casino even feels a need to offer real single deck means something.

[Jack Fate]

A single deck game with more than two other players(three total) is unplayable for all practical purposes regardless if they are dealing RO5 or RO6. With four players the best you'll see is two rounds, at which point the game gets too slow, IMHO.

In regards to Tunica, the place is a shadow of it's former self, however one can still find a good number of single deck opportunities with a little leg work. Pen and conditions vary day to day, dealer to dealer, shift to shift. I don't know for sure, but I suspect the house realizes they make more money when they increase pen, but they don't do so all the time. Keeps people like us from setting up shop. It's also possiable I'm overthinking the whole thing.

At any rate, there are plenty of headsup opportunities weekdays all shifts. If you don't see what your looking for, look some more. Hey, that rhymes!!!

Regards, Jack.

[Sun Runner]

Dealing one round per shuffle to a table full of people, what game in the place could be less attractive to the casino than that? They probably toss the shortstop and third baseman periodically just to make sure.

[nerd]

> Not trying to be argumentative but when a casino can
> open a pit of 6:5 SD, advertise full-pay BJ then deal
> 17, 18, maybe 19 cards per shuffle, deal 4:6 out of a
> shoe, and most times you can't find a seat if you
> wanted one, I'm siding with Ouchez.

I agree that those who play 6:5 SD are stupid/ignorant. However, I disagree that playing 3:2 SD with a shuffle after every round or playing poorly-penetrated shoes qualifies non-APs as stupid/ignorant. Bad pen = less hands per hour = smaller losses for non-APs.

> There may be more APs out there than before but with
> the advent of gambling going nationwide while being
> all over television, for every new wise guy I bet
> there are 100 new suckers.

> Yes, I'm still amazed when I watch them.

[Dog Hand]

jimmtech,

The last time I breezed through Tunica, I played SD at the GS. The rules are SD (3:2, of course), H17, DA2, noDAS.

I played heads-up and got THREE rounds to one hand. I played one more deck, got the same, and left.

As others have suggested in this thread, much better SD games can be found in Tunica.

Dog Hand