in any dd or sd game unless I am facing a dealer 6 or less!
On too many occasions with the big count and an 11 I pull the ace, too many times!
Of course that does depend on how many aces are still left. But in the high counts there are usually enough to make me concerned.
I find this tough on the emotions, and to be avoided.
So, I will just hit it!
Many of the casinos have been feeling a pinch with the downturn in the economy. Please play as often as you can, and for very large stakes. I would hate for them to have to cut down on my comps.
> Many of the casinos have been feeling a
> pinch with the downturn in the economy.
> Please play as often as you can, and for
> very large stakes. I would hate for them to
> have to cut down on my comps.
I will just call it a risk averse move.
But then again I am used to making these plays in a dd games with 20 or fewer cards left.
Think about it.
I think they are making plenty of money to keep you in comps, but with all the money you win, you don't need it!
> in any dd or sd game unless I am facing a
> dealer 6 or less!
> On too many occasions with the big count and
> an 11 I pull the ace, too many times!
> Of course that does depend on how many aces
> are still left. But in the high counts there
> are usually enough to make me concerned.
> I find this tough on the emotions, and to be
> avoided.
> So, I will just hit it!
This is insanity. Doubling on 11 is one of your strongest plays, and the higher the count, the stronger it gets.
Run a sim doing it both ways and you will see that this will cost you a very significant chunk of your edge.
You cannot win if you are afraid to put the money on the table. If you cannot handle this emotionally, you are either overbetting your bankroll or perhaps are not emotionally suited for advantage play.
> This is insanity. Doubling on 11 is one of
> your strongest plays, and the higher the
> count, the stronger it gets.
> Run a sim doing it both ways and you will
> see that this will cost you a very
> significant chunk of your edge.
> You cannot win if you are afraid to put the
> money on the table. If you cannot handle
> this emotionally, you are either overbetting
> your bankroll or perhaps are not emotionally
> suited for advantage play.
show me the player that enjoys pulling aces to their 11 with max bet out.
What I am doing is using the specific information on hand to play to an advantage. I stated that this happens often in a dd with a high count and few cards remaining and a fair number of aces remaining.
I am not talking about a half deck left but around 20 cards when this seems to happen with great frequency.
In these instances I would rather double on a ten than an 11.
I think I am also making a valid point concerning
variations to advantage play.
> show me the player that enjoys pulling aces
> to their 11 with max bet out.
> What I am doing is using the specific
> information on hand to play to an advantage.
> I stated that this happens often in a dd
> with a high count and few cards remaining
> and a fair number of aces remaining.
> I am not talking about a half deck left but
> around 20 cards when this seems to happen
> with great frequency.
> In these instances I would rather double on
> a ten than an 11.
> I think I am also making a valid point
> concerning
> variations to advantage play.
No you are not. You are letting emotions and selective memory cloud your judgement.
Sure, it happens - you double 11 and catch an ace, a small card, or perhaps an eight (since most counts don't even track the 8). Naturally, the dealer has the ten in the hole to match the face.
However, it is these very plays that give you your edge. Fail to take advantage of these plays when they present themselves, and you are effectively throwing away your advantage.
There has been a great deal of study into the mathmatics behind the game. You either accept the math or you don't. Any time you do not make the mathmatically correct play you are throwing away EV. It also means that it will take you longer to get into the long run. It is just that simple. Once you start following your hunches and what "seems to happen" then you have become just another ploppy.
Variance is part of the game. You will have sessions (and days, sometimes even entire trips) in which none of this seems to work. There is no way around this.
Again, if you're sweating the loss of a few max bet doubles, you may be overbetting your bankroll.
This is a difficult concept to grasp. It took me a couple of years and several hundred hours of play.
My friend, whenever we get together again I will gladly take the double down bet on all your elevens. This will limit your emotional damage and add significantly to my bank.
In fact, I will play on all your hands with positive EV even if they are not of the heavenly eleven variety. This quasi-RA strategy makes as much sense as not splitting aces because you 'just know' that you will be getting a small card. Which is to say, none at all.
I have never seen an eleven I didn't like. As it has been said many times before, you will lose more money by not getting the chips out there during positive EV hands than you will lose by playing negative waiting bets.
Courage, Ouchez. And don't forget to buy those additional cards on your soft doubles, either.
scobee
Parker and scobee are speaking like true pros. When I read your post ouchez I was thinking exactly what Parker wrote. You must must must double 11. An ace side count would help you out alot in that situation, and in a SD or DD game it wouldn't be too hard. Hope you change your mind ouchez. It feels alot worse hitting that 11, getting the face, and only winning your max.
> My friend, whenever we get together again I
> will gladly take the double down bet on all
> your elevens. This will limit your emotional
> damage and add significantly to my bank.
> In fact, I will play on all your hands with
> positive EV even if they are not of the
> heavenly eleven variety. This quasi-RA
> strategy makes as much sense as not
> splitting aces because you 'just know' that
> you will be getting a small card. Which is
> to say, none at all.
> I have never seen an eleven I didn't like.
> As it has been said many times before, you
> will lose more money by not getting the
> chips out there during positive EV hands
> than you will lose by playing negative
> waiting bets.
> Courage, Ouchez. And don't forget to buy
> those additional cards on your soft doubles,
> either.
> scobee
This sounds like those people who never hit a 12 because a ten is always waiting for them.
Sincerely,
Cacarulo
actually I based my statement on the count with few cards left and a fair to midland amount of aces left in a dd game.
I always hit my 12 when called for except under certain circumstances I will surrender it.
> actually I based my statement on the count
> with few cards left and a fair to midland
> amount of aces left in a dd game.
... you've almost got me convined.
I'll never do it, I don't count Aces and I love to see elevens in a high count, but with a high Ace count, maybe!?
SR
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