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  1. 04-24-2015, 04:07 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avincow View Post
    I know it's not illegal, but I imagine that casinos will be a lot more pissed off if they catch you hole carding as opposed to card counting. What are the repercussions here? What if you get caught in a normal American casino, an Indian casino on sovereign land, or an international casino? And how likely is it that I will be caught?
    I think the word "caught" should not be used in this context. "Caught" implies wrongdoing. Absent collusion with a dishonest dealer, there is nothing wrong with hole carding. It is a perfectly legal and appropriate method of skillful play. Yes, casino personnel often react negatively, no different than they do to other forms of skillful play. They do not want winning players. Some inept casino folks take holecarding personally, possibly because it exposes the casino's poor training and/or supervision.
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  2. 04-24-2015, 06:07 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by LVBear584 View Post
    I think the word "caught" should not be used in this context. "Caught" implies wrongdoing. Absent collusion with a dishonest dealer, there is nothing wrong with hole carding. It is a perfectly legal and appropriate method of skillful play. Yes, casino personnel often react negatively, no different than they do to other forms of skillful play. They do not want winning players. Some inept casino folks take holecarding personally, possibly because it exposes the casino's poor training and/or supervision.
    To be fair, whereas few have a problem with an unsought glimpse of the dealer's hole card, some believe professional hole carding is a legal right and a moral wrong.

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    How do you do this "hole-carding" thing then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UK-21 View Post
    How do you do this "hole-carding" thing then?
    Popular methods include creating obstacles on the table such as an ashtray or drink so that the dealer has to maneuver the cards around or over the obstacle, resting your chin on the rail to get a better angle of the card if the dealer is slightly showing it, pretending to drop something, pretending to tie your shoe, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowless View Post
    Popular methods include creating obstacles on the table such as an ashtray or drink so that the dealer has to maneuver the cards around or over the obstacle, resting your chin on the rail to get a better angle of the card if the dealer is slightly showing it, pretending to drop something, pretending to tie your shoe, etc.
    I had a 3CP dealer you could HC from the next state. No effort required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcallister3200 View Post
    Of course this thread would veer off into talking about specific games, in the non subscription area. Would you please edit or delete your post oc2?
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    Almost there but not quite. Would you mind editing the game? Ty
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