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    one or more hands?!

    Hi guys..!

    first of all i want to introduce myself cause this is my first message..I'm an italian guy who is enthusiastic of poker, BJ (since a few) and so on..i'm not that kind of guy who studies all the strategies, % etc etc because i've always hated math so i'm not so good with a lot of numbers.. btw, i like to play sometimes when i go to casinos with some friends..

    Given that i've started to be intereste on BJ, i was wondering if in your opinion playing at the same time two hands is better than playing just one hand or if it doens't make any difference.
    I think it should be better to play 2 hands cause you can risk more with build a good point with one hand and maybe risk something more with the other hand if you have mid point (12 13 14).

    i hope that you have understood what i mean..

    a last question: do you know a software to count the cards? i don't want something for the BJ online, but just a software (something like a game) that can improve the speedy of the brain with all these +1 -1.. it's just for fun..!

    thank you!

    F

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    1. From a math perspective, playing 1 hand in neutral and negative counts, and going to 2 hands in positive hands is best.
    2. From a math perspective, playing 2 hands at all times with the same aggregate minimum bet is better than always playing 1 hand
    3. Heat considerations can modify these assumptions
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    I am amatuer of BJ?I liked play BJ in Macou?in my played experiences play two hand earn more than one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christian lee View Post
    I am amatuer of BJ?I liked play BJ in Macou?in my played experiences play two hand earn more than one.
    But they can lose more than one too.

    Remember, if you're not counting, you will lose in the long run regardless if you're playing one hand or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christian lee View Post
    I am amatuer of BJ?I liked play BJ in Macou?in my played experiences play two hand earn more than one.
    Aren't all the Bj games dealt from a CSM in Macau?

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    If there are other people at the table, it's good idea to spread to two hands so you eat up the good cards. It's also a good idea to spread 2 hands if you think you can get less heat. 1x100 will get a cheques play. 2x75 does not get a cheques play.

    As far as the math behind it all, get software to simulate 1 hand vs. 2 hands to see the differences. Go to qfit.com, it has all the software you need for simulations and practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulincx View Post
    Hi guys..!

    first of all i want to introduce myself cause this is my first message..I'm an italian guy who is enthusiastic of poker, BJ (since a few) and so on..i'm not that kind of guy who studies all the strategies, % etc etc because i've always hated math so i'm not so good with a lot of numbers.. btw, i like to play sometimes when i go to casinos with some friends..

    Given that i've started to be intereste on BJ, i was wondering if in your opinion playing at the same time two hands is better than playing just one hand or if it doens't make any difference.
    I think it should be better to play 2 hands cause you can risk more with build a good point with one hand and maybe risk something more with the other hand if you have mid point (12 13 14).

    i hope that you have understood what i mean..

    a last question: do you know a software to count the cards? i don't want something for the BJ online, but just a software (something like a game) that can improve the speedy of the brain with all these +1 -1.. it's just for fun..!

    thank you!

    F
    1. If you're not good with math, and not willing to be patient and get "good" at math, you're not going to have a very good time trying to count. There are, however, counts that take a "lot" of the math out of the situation and pretty much simplify everything for you, all you have to remember are the various bet schedules and index plays. I advise that you find a count that fits you well, and then master it.

    2. Norm, the ADMIN/Creator/God of this site, has software for purchase for EXACTLY what you are looking for and then some, times infinity. There's about a million and a half links to it here, but if you head on over to qfit you'll find it under the blackjack tab. If you're serious about counting, buy the whole suite of software, it'll save you FAR more than you will pay. Honestly I don't know why I haven't yet, and eventually I imagine I will just for the sims and drills.

    Quote Originally Posted by marriedputter View Post
    But they can lose more than one too.

    Remember, if you're not counting, you will lose in the long run regardless if you're playing one hand or two.
    Bingo.

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    if you don't learn basic strategy and get really good at not just counting cards but calculating the exact moment that you have a mathematical advantage over that particular game - every game has different rules that need to be calculated , so not just counting cards is important to making money , but calculating the rules , which is paramount ,
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    if you don't want to do that , but you still want to play blackjack for money, than , better not play blackjack for real money at all ... and since you dont like math , i would advise you to never ever play unless you are willing to change , and then do all that "math work " . people usually don't change , and sounds like you would rather have an easy way to have fun making money, or something ... if you don't calculate when you have a mathemaTical advantange over the given rules , you are gambling your money ,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avincow View Post
    If there are other people at the table, it's good idea to spread to two hands so you eat up the good cards. It's also a good idea to spread 2 hands if you think you can get less heat. 1x100 will get a cheques play. 2x75 does not get a cheques play.

    As far as the math behind it all, get software to simulate 1 hand vs. 2 hands to see the differences. Go to qfit.com, it has all the software you need for simulations and practice.
    However, except for the fact that it is not called out when you move from 1X$10 to 2X$75, if observed, it will generate just as much heat as moving from 1X$10 to 1X$100, by any observer worth his salt.

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    Yes I dealt BJ from CSM?almost casino use CSM?so I can't counred.

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    Amost casino in Macou used CSM ?I can't count at all.

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    If you play 1v1 heads up with the dealer....
    -If you play 1 hand, you will receive ~50% of the cards in the shoe remaining to be dealt before the shuffle
    -If you play 2 hands you will receive ~66% of the cards in the shoe remaining to be dealt before the shuffle
    -If you pay 3 hands you will receive ~75% of the cards in the shoe remaining to be dealt before the shuffle
    This is kinda a big deal when you count cards.

    If you dont count cards, its just a way to put more money on the felt.

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    When heads up, however, it is best to just play one hand. The goal then is to get as many rounds of positive hands in as possible.

    If there are others, then the goal is to "eat" the good cards so that they don't.

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