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    Checks Play, calling it in

    So I have played at a casino recently where I was spreading 1-10. My big bet is $100 and I get the "checks play" thing. When they say this, the pit boss goes to the phone, pushes a button, and quickly tells whoever is on the other line my spot at the table and my bet. This tells me that they routinely let surveillance know when someone is betting $100.

    Me no like this.

    I left the table after I showed my big bet twice in a row. What would you do in this circumstance? I was thinking about either pulling my bet down to $90 or always leaving after my big bet. Note: I play rated.
    This is DD by the way (though they do this too on 6 deck). 75% pen, DOA, DAS, NRSA, late surrender.
    I haven't had a problem yet but have been kicking their butts for a while now. I have been playing there for over a year, but I spotted the pit boss as he just finished writing (or perhaps reading) some notes about me on their screen (you can see the screen from outside). I could be wrong on the notes though. There may be notes for everybody for all I know and maybe they don't have anything to do with play.

    Regardless, I was thinking of not playing there for a while. It's hard not to though, I can't find rules and penetration better than this anywhere. Even on their 6D they cut off only 3/4 of a deck!
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    Sounds like a sweatshop. I would avoid showing any patterns in your strategy. Try back counting and just leave after 2 or 3 max bet cycles. Just leave after receiving heat altogether without cashing out and forget about that shift for a while if heat was real.

    Spreading from 1-10 on a double deck is pretty brash for the place your playing. Also, are you saying they have surrender in there DD?


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    If a $100 bet gets way more heat than a $90 bet it sounds like you should make more $90 bets. I don't think this qualifies as a sweat shop if they have been letting you win for a year using a 1:10 spread on a good DD game. It sounds like you have a good thing going, no need to make things harder on yourself by crossing arbitrary thresholds for little reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by counter19 View Post
    This tells me that they routinely let surveillance know when someone is betting black.
    I hope you mean betting $100 not betting black. You shouldn't bet black when you bet $100. Every casino tracks black chips. I would bet less than $100. 1-10 spread will often get attention and may not be tolerated at most DD games.
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    Regardless, I was thinking of not playing there for a while. It's hard not to though, I can't find rules and penetration better than this anywhere. Even on their 6D they cut off only 3/4 of a deck!
    If their 4D game is that good and they are busy hawking their great DD game I would play the shoe game. If you keep attacking the DD game you won't be able to play either game. It won't be hard not to play there after that. You canbet they already hav a pretty good idea about what you are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by counter19 View Post
    So I have played at a casino recently where I was spreading 1-10. My big bet is $100 and I get the "checks play" thing. When they say this, the pit boss goes to the phone, pushes a button, and quickly tells whoever is on the other line my spot at the table and my bet. This tells me that they routinely let surveillance know when someone is betting black.

    Me no like this.

    I left the table after I showed my big bet twice in a row. What would you do in this circumstance? I was thinking about either pulling my bet down to $90 or always leaving after my big bet. Note: I play rated.
    This is DD by the way (though they do this too on 6 deck). 75% pen, DOA, DAS, NRSA, late surrender.
    I haven't had a problem yet but have been kicking their butts for a while now. I have been playing there for over a year, but I spotted the pit boss as he just finished writing (or perhaps reading) some notes about me on their screen (you can see the screen from outside). I could be wrong on the notes though. There may be notes for everybody for all I know and maybe they don't have anything to do with play.

    Regardless, I was thinking of not playing there for a while. It's hard not to though, I can't find rules and penetration better than this anywhere. Even on their 6D they cut off only 3/4 of a deck!
    I doubt it's the cheques play that gets the call upstairs-- it almost assuredly is the 1 to 10 spread. Where in the world do they have a DD game with late surrender? I'd like to play that game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    I doubt it's the cheques play that gets the call upstairs-- it almost assuredly is the 1 to 10 spread. Where in the world do they have a DD game with late surrender? I'd like to play that game.
    Check your copy of CBJN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joss View Post
    If a $100 bet gets way more heat than a $90 bet it sounds like you should make more $90 bets.<snip>
    Spreading $10-$90 is precisely what I used to do when I was first building my bankroll.

    Oh... did I mention that was on a positive-off-the-top single-deck game?

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    P.S. Shortly after they kicked me out, they removed the game... I'm glad I didn't try to "milk" it!

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    Don't bet $100. Or bet $100 and survive the skills check.
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    In my neck of the woods, low limit tables have table max of either 100 or 200. In my red chip days a couple of stores even had $50 table max. In those days, the magic number for heat was a bet for $100. With a min bet of $5, my max bet was 2x90. I survived for years.

    Only when low limit conditions deteriorated, did I go after higher min games. - an error in retrospect - I should have done it earlier. In any event, the message, as has been espoused by others, is to gauge each stores tolerance level and govern yourself accordingly. Another comment within this thread that I also agree with is - if you must bid $100, then 4 green vs 1 black. The black chip, at a low limit table will generate a checks pkay, whereas 4 green may not.

    Last, but not least, after all of these years, I still chuckle at at a trip to Vegas when I lost my GPS and simply drove around looking for casinos. I managed to find the Tuscany - I jumped my bet from 5 or 10 (can't remember) to $30 which generated a checks play call. 2 (pant) suits immediately appeared hawking my wild jump. I whispered to my neighbour - want to see the ladies go ape shit - jumped my bet to a $100 (can't remember if 4 green or 1 black) ....it was pretty funny.

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    A couple stores I play call out "green plays!" So annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by counter19 View Post
    So I have played at a casino recently where I was spreading 1-10. My big bet is $100 and I get the "checks play" thing. When they say this, the pit boss goes to the phone, pushes a button, and quickly tells whoever is on the other line my spot at the table and my bet. This tells me that they routinely let surveillance know when someone is betting black.

    Me no like this.

    I left the table after I showed my big bet twice in a row. What would you do in this circumstance? I was thinking about either pulling my bet down to $90 or always leaving after my big bet. Note: I play rated.
    This is DD by the way (though they do this too on 6 deck). 75% pen, DOA, DAS, NRSA, late surrender.
    I haven't had a problem yet but have been kicking their butts for a while now. I have been playing there for over a year, but I spotted the pit boss as he just finished writing (or perhaps reading) some notes about me on their screen (you can see the screen from outside). I could be wrong on the notes though. There may be notes for everybody for all I know and maybe they don't have anything to do with play.

    Regardless, I was thinking of not playing there for a while. It's hard not to though, I can't find rules and penetration better than this anywhere. Even on their 6D they cut off only 3/4 of a deck!
    If your up on that store with great games like that I would look for other games to wager on for a few sessions . When considering make sure your BR allows you to.

    1. Bet $125 on 2 of the 3 thirds on roulette . I would do this to see if they are specifically calling EITS for "black action".

    2. Go to craps, bet 96 on the 6&8 for the same reason and go up after one hits just to make it a "black chip" being wagered and keep an eye on the pit to see if they call.

    I have a few other tricks to spin heads of anyone who may be watching but I choose not to list them here for obvious reasons .

    Best,
    Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    Check your copy of CBJN.
    I didn't realize they had any such game, since where I play, Vegas and East Coast, they do not, other than BJGenius's infamous spot. Are they sweat boxes? It would be an 800 mile round trip for me for possibly nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joss View Post
    If a $100 bet gets way more heat than a $90 bet it sounds like you should make more $90 bets. I don't think this qualifies as a sweat shop if they have been letting you win for a year using a 1:10 spread on a good DD game. It sounds like you have a good thing going, no need to make things harder on yourself by crossing arbitrary thresholds for little reason.
    I have only recently raised my max bet to $100. It used to go only to $80. This is why I only just now discovered that they call it in. I could always make $80 bets with no problem, but gosh darn it, my bankroll has increased so my betting has as well.

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