Count doesn't matter

[BigJer]

Getting weak in your old age, eh?

Yeah I'll tell you. Before it was a 13 hr. day.

[MJGolf]

Yeah I'll tell you. Before it was a 13 hr. day.

Wait......I thought with the machine stamina INCREASED *wink *wink

Actually, anyone want to take bets on age (mental or otherwise) for OP?

[Aslan]

Yeah I'll tell you. Before it was a 13 hr. day.

Without revealing my age I can tell you I have played many a 20 plus hour session in places where I played rated. I relish those $100 to $150 restaurant comps, enjoy the game and socializing with the people on both sides of the table, and have a penchant for reaching the long run before I leave, if possible, or at least getting in the winner's column. In very few instances did I leave losing, but sometimes that is unavoidable. The long run is not a respecter of persons.

[Dieter]

I thought about quitting last year, but don't really have anything else I can do.

Good thing that playing cards is working out for you, then.


If what you're doing isn't working, STOP.

[Stealth]

I did have a pretty big loss at the end of the year so that's what's led to new trying something new. Close to $7000 over the course of a couple of days strictly following the count. It was pretty devastating. Earlier in the year during the summer I went through a stretch where I lost about $15000 over a couple weeks strictly playing by the count. To be honest, my br is not big enough for $25 dd (3:2) without some luck, but the next games below that are the $5 6 deck, and those games just attract too many idiots and goes too slowly. I've spent almost a year playing that game before moving to double deck.

The rules are pretty good. 3:2, double deck, penetration is not too great (maybe 60%), surrender, das.

My flaw I think is maybe spread. I'm more of a 1-5 or 1-6 spread. I don't really reach to 8 units very often. discipline could be a problem. I can't seem to bring myself to leave when I'm up or down often leaving me to lose most of what I brought. Sometimes I will color up when I reach my goal, walk around, and then sit down at another table and lose a lot. I also try to grind out a win at a bad table waiting for it to turn. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.

The reason I'm trying this out is two fold. 1: it's always bothered me that I couldn't press when I knew that I was in good shoes when the count was negative. 2: it's always bothered me when I knew the shoe was bad but the count was sky high that I would bet max but still lose more often despite what the dealer shows.

I'm not abandoning the count per say. I still keep the prefect count, but over the last couple of weeks I've refrained from betting too high during bad high count shoes, and I've bet higher accounts during good negative count shoes. For now I feel like it's worked out better.

Don't mean to be hard but if I were your close friend I would tell you that you are not even close to being a professional advantage player (I assume you have no job or you can not play that much). It kinda like being pregnant, there is no such thing as almost. Your description of your play indicates you do not understand the consequences of many strategically important plays (surrender?) nor do you have a grasp on what bet level you can support or what spread is required to win. Game selection of "maybe 60%"? In poker this is called a tell.

The level of competence demonstrated by your commentary leaves you without justification to announce that card counting does not work. I for one can tell you that it does and I can prove it with my results. I will leave you with the fact that we all understand variance and the sick feeling when it is against you, but the true pros also understand the euphoria of it being on your side and, most importantly, that it is not really very relevant in the long term if your game is solid.

Best of luck and by the way you have come to a place with many accomplished pros who can help if you just listen.

[Ace of Bass]

8 pages and not one mention of Basic Strategy?

OP u play 2 DECKS the whole point of 8 deck games is to make thing tuff on counters. u should be crushing this game and know what the last card will be. work on ur fundamentals like basic strategy and basic strategy. then when ur done work on ur basic strategy. brings house edge to just about break even. u'll be getting banned from casinos in no time

[metronome]

1. Back to the pooter-hole incident. theres a phenomenom called Olfatory Fatigue. You lose the ability (or it's GREATLY diminished) to perceive a scent over time.
Those newly arrived CAN smell it though.
Maybe it's just me, but if I poop (or mucous) my britches, I'm going post haste to the room/home and changing.
That you did not, signifies to me (if true) that you don't need to frequent casinos.
2. If you can't profit from heads-up 3:2, DOA, DAS, LS, DD you need to try something else.
3. You've been a member here since Nov. '13 and you never figured out that STing means Shuffle Tracking? OK, I can forgive that one as I still see some abbreviations here I can't decipher.

[Aslan]

All this time I thought it was Star Trekking! BEAM ME UP 2.gif

[Heisenberg]

I've played BJ since I read Ed Thorp's seminal work in 1979. I never had a losing year up to 1993 when I stopped playing because my TV career was taking too much of my time. I played right across Europe (I'm based in the UK), in Asia, Australia and extensively in the US (mainly Vegas). I met some fantastic people (and many who were totally bonkers) and had a brilliant time. Now I'm retired I'm getting back into it again and I'm glad to see it's still beatable.

Rather than making such a categorically negative announcement about blackjack OP, take a look at what you're doing and try to understand what it is you're NOT doing correctly. The game is beatable but you have to use the right techniques. You're obviously not. Just imagine how exciting it's going to be for you when you finally start playing correctly. It will happen if you're willing to listen and learn. Don't give up....

[Norm]

Very certain post from a man for whom the Uncertainty Principle was named.

[Bodarc]

Not unless he rose from the dead.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

Not unless he rose from the dead.

Like Schrodinger's Cat ?

R O T F L M A O

[ayjacks]

thank you zen king and exoter.