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    First next carding experience!

    DD pitch game, it took some eye training on my part at first. She either reveals the second card most of the time or the first or third. If you flash your cards as in seeking advice she accidentally flashes the hit card. So far I've mostly just sat in first base and spread to 2 hands and bet 400 on the hand with ace or ten and 100 in the other. Any other tips and tricks. You can only see the card from the second seat or middle.


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    Take advantage while you can and limit your posting on the subject. You never know when the dark side can be eyeing the forums and consequently start watchin their pitch game dealers, which can evidently affect you at your store. Although unlikely, you don't want to go into too much detail about how your dealer is flashing her cards.
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    Nice, a sloppy dealer. So this dealer had bad habits on how to handle 2 decks? What hand was she using to hold the decks with? I wish I could find a dealer like that.

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    She held it fine but dident apply pressure with her finger on the top part of the deck. Making the cards float away. I was backed off as soon as I hit the $5000 mark and my partner was backed off after hitting $2000 mark. They still haven't cought on to the next card thing tho. It's pretty funny tho she would get laughing attacks lean back and expose the hole card at times aswell. You get backed off for winning at sweatshops I guess.


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    It's crazy how easy it is to find sloppy dealers outside of Vegas. The AP that got me into this world hole-carded a Mississippi stud dealer for 17 grand. I still haven't found a Mississippi stud front-loader but it's really worth it to learn carnival games for the day the opportunity comes.


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    You aren't doing yourself not anyone else any favors by posting so much about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackHead View Post
    She held it fine but dident apply pressure with her finger on the top part of the deck. Making the cards float away. I was backed off as soon as I hit the $5000 mark and my partner was backed off after hitting $2000 mark. They still haven't cought on to the next card thing tho. It's pretty funny tho she would get laughing attacks lean back and expose the hole card at times aswell. You get backed off for winning at sweatshops I guess.


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    That's awesome. Was she getting laughing attacks from all the money you and your partner were beating her and the house out of? If that's the case you need to remember her face and keep this woman laughing. Pump her for information to see if she works at any other casinos and follow her around like a little puppy dog. So did she have small hands? Is that why she couldn't apply the right pressure on top of the deck because two decks were to big for her hands?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackHead View Post
    It's crazy how easy it is to find sloppy dealers outside of Vegas. The AP that got me into this world hole-carded a Mississippi stud dealer for 17 grand. I still haven't found a Mississippi stud front-loader but it's really worth it to learn carnival games for the day the opportunity comes.


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    It's not that easy finding a sloppy dealer on my end but I am looking for the opportunity every time I'm in casino central. I've seen a lot of people play Mississippi stud but 99% of the time I see people losing their shirts at that game. I never see anyone winning at that game. Personally I've never played that game and not sure if I would want to unless there is a definitive edge for the player.

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    Mississippi stud is a terrible but interesting game the house edge is 5% pretty much, with the usual pay tables. Interesting because with collusion a full tables of players flashing there hands can get a 5% edge but it's not allowed but, some dealers and pit bosses let you at some stores. Casinos are aware of the vulnerabilities of the game and the over 50% edge from hole carding it. But as long as there's weak pit bosses, surveillance and dealers. There will be opportunities for all sorts of advantage playing. Yes she had small hands I'm guessing some casino employees simply don't understand the importance of there job and money or where never properly explained advantage playing aside from counting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackHead View Post
    But as long as there's weak pit bosses, surveillance and dealers
    What use is saying this other than to kill opportunities. You can let this thread die or you can continue to gab and kill lots of opportunities. I don't do any of this as I haven't found any opportunities but I sure as hell would be quiet about it if I did find some. You have probably killed some other peoples opportunities already. Blitz stop encouraging this idiot to keep rambling on about stuff that shouldn't be talked about in an open forum. You aren't gaining any confidence points with members by doing this. There are PM's, telephones and Emails if you want to discuss further. His teammate should be ready to strangle him or dump him by now. Blitz you are being looked at in the same light by encouraging him. I suspect he got backed off because of this thread.

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    T3 I know better than to get into internet banter with you I have better things to do with my time. Why don't you take some time off of multi-dimensional counts and realize every AP website has a hole-carding information including AP Heat.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackHead View Post
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    A better idea would be to not talk about HCing specifics on an open forum. The more you talk about it the more people know about it. And I suspect you don't want others (ie casinos) to know more about it.
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    Your right I shouldn't ever say that there are AP opportunities in the USA that's just way too specific. Give me a break for god sakes everything I've learned about "advanced" comes from message boards. It's openly talked about in bj21 green chipping and blackjack info. The sites are even referenced in surveillance forums. There will always be sloppy dealers me talking about finger pressure isn't going to ruin anything. Maybe if I said the name of the property the name of the dealer and the shift like Uston did I would understand. I just think it's stupid that discussing published material is taboo. But it's fine I'll post about advanced techniques somewhere else just let the post die out or leave it to Norm to delete it if he dosent want it in his site.


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