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    Strippers in the unemployment line and hanging out down at the soup kitchen

    http://news360.com/article/258981654

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    My heartfelt thoughts on this article.............

    You're going to get me all teary that strippers in AC are only going to be able to afford half of their current cocaine habit!Hahahaha Yes, AC will raise taxes and do whatever to keep those wheel barrows full of cash coming in like they're used to. It's like trying to abruptly change the diet of someone accustomed to fine dining at the most exclusive restaurants to nothing but rice, beans and tortillas, it's not going to go smoothly or quietly! The attitude of "F**k this town! As long as I am lining my pockets and those of my cohorts who gives a s**t!?" on the part of business and political interests has prevailed. The money that's piled into that town over the years and look at it. It's a disaster. Shortsightedness, greed and stupidity make for a bad combination.
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    Swop

    Hey Tarzan: You can actually help them out and donate here:

    Link: www.swopusa.org/about-us/

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    Seems like the ladies of AC need a stimulus package. Has Christies golden plan to revitalize AC turned to rust? http://www.theburningplatform.com/20...to-perfection/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    Seems like the ladies of AC need a stimulus package. Has Christies golden plan to revitalize AC turned to rust? http://www.theburningplatform.com/20...to-perfection/
    The language of the article destroys any credibility the guy may have had. His abusive and offensive language makes a previous agenda obvious. That makes everything he writes about suspect unless he was wring a glowing review of Christie. That would be against his agenda and would carry weight. I guess his target audience all have the same agenda he does or most thinking people would not give his article any weight, unless of course it stated things opposed to his obvious biases.

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    It is nothing but the age old equation of supply and demand. Whether you are talking hogs, cattle, chickens, housing, gold, casinos or anything else, there is only so much demand and when it is exceeded the supply has to contract and/or the prices have to fall.
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    My experience in AC was overall depressing even before the numerous shut downs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    The language of the article destroys any credibility the guy may have had. His abusive and offensive language makes a previous agenda obvious. That makes everything he writes about suspect unless he was wring a glowing review of Christie. That would be against his agenda and would carry weight. I guess his target audience all have the same agenda he does or most thinking people would not give his article any weight, unless of course it stated things opposed to his obvious biases.
    Everyone has an opinion T3. Casinos in AC are not closing because it just so happens to be the best of times. Can you refute the author of the article to prove to me that AC is a shining beacon within the gaming industry? If so, I would like to hear what you have to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    Everyone has an opinion T3. Casinos in AC are not closing because it just so happens to be the best of times. Can you refute the author of the article to prove to me that AC is a shining beacon within the gaming industry? If so, I would like to hear what you have to say.
    I never said he was wrong. Only that the language he used made believing he wrote an unbiased article impossible. In other words you can't trust what he said as your only source. I have read many articles on this subject and didn't even pay attention to this one because the author was showing he couldn't be an unbiased source. Most main stream journalist are propagandists. You can tell by how they report the news. You always have to consider what the reporters slant is if you want to get an unslanted and truthful reckoning of the facts. I have found the best way to see through the biased reporting is assume that they don't actually lie but any conclusions you would jump to from the article are the opposite of the truth. The intersection of these two sets is where the truth lies.

    Line one says the writer is a bigoted ass. The rest of the paragraph blames Christie for AC's downfall which we all know is false. AC's downfall was written in stone well before Christie took office. It was a result of the economic collapse of 2009 and the way casinos reacted to it. We all know that. It became worse when competition arose in neighboring states and AC didn't try to compete to hold as much of their customer base as possible. The idea that there won't be a casino left in 2015 is ridiculous.

    Paragraph 2 shows a lack of understanding of how states spend money. He says Christie bailed out the casinos but in most states and the Federal Government the legislative branch spends money and the executive can either rubber stamp it or try to make it harder to do. In NJ the legislative branch spends the money but it is one of 44 states where the Governor has line item veto on spending bills. Now how much Christie used this power to shape the Bill or how much he used his clout to encourage the legislature to pass the AC spending Bills I don't know. But clearly the author is ignorant as to how the NJ government works and/or wants you to be to achieve his agenda.

    So after 2 paragraphs he has eroded all credibility as either being knowledgable on the subject or wanting to do anything other than mislead the reader. Looking up the state legislature the Assembly is 32 democrats, 16 republicans and 2 independents. The Senate is 16 democrats and 8 republicans. So the idea that Christie got a 2/3rds opposition party in each house of the legislature to pass his baby of an AC bail out Bill either is ridiculous or shows a great ability for an executive to work with the opposition legislature to reach common goals. Something Clinton/Gingrich were great at but other presidents lacked. Perhaps he is saying Christie is this type of politician that is so needed today but I think its clear he is not. My guess is he is relying on the ignorance of his audience to believe his outlandish premise.

    The rest of the article is written with the same kind of ignorance and blatant bias. After what he did to his credibility in the first half of the article I didn't pay the rest any serious attention as he was such a poor source for the first part of the article. The article is clearly a Christie hit piece and doesn't even state that Christie wasn't the architect of the legislation. The opposition party was. He didn't pass the legislation. He just didn't veto it. I guess reality can get in the way when trying to write a propaganda piece. Just invent your own reality and bank on the ignorance of your readers.

    If you believe AC casinos are going to disappear altogether as this guy want s you to believe you are a fool. There are simply to many casinos for the demand and the big players in the town are jockeying to either get the most they can when getting out (the losers in the end game) or trying to be one of the around 4 casinos needed to satisfy the demand (the winners). I have heard guesstimates of 4 casino properties left in 2017. Harrah's and the Boragata will survive. Caesar's will likely be allowed to stay open. I am not sure what the other would be. Either the Golden Nugget or one of the other boardwalk properties. This guy wants the reader to believe all casinos will be closed by 2015. I am not that gullible. Nor am I gullible enough to believe almost all the rest of the article. He proves himself a very bad source for the Christie angle, the casino angle and every thing else he is writing about.

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    Somehow I knew I was baiting you into a response with the question I posed and because I know that you like a challenge you played right into my hand like I knew you would. Kinda like setting a trap for someone in poker when you know their going to oblige. I should have just given you a lengthy math problem to figure out. Your under the assumption that I think AC casinos are going to disappear in 2015, and your wrong. Of course I know that they are not going to disappear by that date. The language of the article wasn't disturbing to me, maybe he could have used better word choice in the place of the language that you found offensive. Your entitled to your opinion T3 but as you said in your opening sentence, I never said he was wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    Your under the assumption that I think AC casinos are going to disappear in 2015, and your wrong.
    I said the author wanted you to believe this. The most gullible that read it probably do believe it.
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    The language of the article wasn't disturbing to me, maybe he could have used better word choice in the place of the language that you found offensive. Your entitled to your opinion T3 but as you said in your opening sentence, I never said he was wrong.
    I didn't find his language offensive (although many would) but it made it easy to judge the slant and intent of the author. His intent was totally off. There are lots of things to bash Christie on especially when you consider the new direction he took to getting an out of control budget under control but the AC and Revel casino bailouts aren't on the list. All he did was not veto the spending. You can bash him for that but if the vote was straight party line they could override his veto anyway. He didn't bash Christie for not vetoing the Bill(s) but blamed the Bills on Christie.
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    Your entitled to your opinion T3 but as you said in your opening sentence, I never said he was wrong.
    If you looked at his piece from the AC angle removing all other references he was mostly right. That is about 2 or 3 sentences in his article. The rest just screamed propaganda and/or a total ignorance of what went on in NJ. I am not naive enough to believe the latter. If you haven't learned how to get at the truth from what is reported by now you are being brainwashed. There isn't a mainstream source that isn't biased to an agenda. Getting at the truth is understanding their slant and that they will likely not literally lie but will work hard to get you to jump to the opposite conclusion to what is true. Just take an example of each media spin and apply to all the logic as they report on a situation and you will zero in on the truth. Adding in international sources is a great way to get more views on many topics.

    Influence peddling is big business and giving it to the masses is the biggest business of them all. Why do you suppose the owners of the media outlets are the same big business interests that vet and assure who runs in any election or the opinion of the masses on any big event? They can't afford to allow you to have your own informed opinion. Fox News was invented because a growing sector wasn't believing the media anymore. That couldn't be allowed to happen so a different propaganda arm for these people to believe was invented. There is a long held strategy to Middle East policy by the West, particularly the CIA. Keep the people divided and fighting one another so they can't come after You. They also use that strategy to control the masses over here. Every chance they get to divide along the lines of sex, ethnicity, religion, economic status or political belief etc, they drive the wedge deep. The media gives the noisy complainers that increase the divide the forefront in order to divide the masses as much as possible. People can't unite when they are so extremely divided at every level of society. The biggest threat to the status quo is a united general public. Controlling the masses is easy in times of plenty but in times of woe they really have to go overboard. The last resort of a falling regime is to unite the masses against a common foreign enemy.

    Anyway understanding how to get the truth through the attempt to control what you think no matter what source you use is an important skill.

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    Bashing an incumbent politician is business as usual in the political arena. Bombastic statements devoid of truth are de rigueur in an election year. Let the mud fly, boys.

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    Are you guys steering toward political debates over strippers getting pay cuts? Some political party is going to help these chicks or something? I thought we had it in mind to stay away from political discussions on this forum. I've never gotten much into the political debates that rage but if you guys are going to make politically inclined statements on this thread I might as well announce that I have completed the prerequisites for running for political office in New Jersey by twittering a photograph of my penis to a blackjack dealer named Lashondra in Vegas, so will being running for Governor of New Jersey in the upcoming election...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarzan View Post
    I might as well announce that I have completed the prerequisites for running for political office in New Jersey by twittering a photograph of my penis to a blackjack dealer named Lashondra in Vegas, so will being running for Governor of New Jersey in the upcoming election...
    No, Tarzan...........that qualifies you to run for U.S. Congress, not just "Governator"
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