Players advantage for taking even money in 6/5 blackjack.

[RS]

Well you know that isn't going to fly.

Point is, dealer didn't know what to do, and you don't want to be in a situation where the dealer takes your money, pays your partial insurance, locks up the rest.......then has to call over the floor. And, it was pretty funny, though. Dealer was like a deer caught in head-lights. Perhaps because a boss was standing right there beside her, not helping her at all. She tried about every thing she could do, she asked the PB what to do, he didn't say a word at first -- she tried taking my insurance wager, and boss saying "noo...try again", then returning it without paying it, and boss "nooo....try again", taking my BJ wager and using it to pay off my insurance wager, and he's like "not quite try it again" or something, then she tried doing something else. I told her a few times, "My BJ bet is a push but I win my insurance bet 2 to 1". Not blaming the dealer -- that's probably the first time that situation ever happened to her, and sometimes our brains 'turn off' if something occurs that we've never experienced.

Had the boss not been there, he could have been called over.....after she made a mistake of taking my BJ bet or whatever she tried to do. Or surveillance being called to verify what happened and how much was wagered. Not something I want.


Point is, just be careful if you insure for less. They might even view you as a shot-taker, after all, some dealers simply return the insurance bet without taking your original bet (same net outcome, if insured for a full half-bet). But if you insure for less and dealer did that, you'd be getting overpaid. And for those questioning my decision for insuring for less than a half bet, I've only done it once before -- several things have to happen for me to take insurance for less. Else, I insure if the count warrants it or don't insure if it doesn't.

[bigplayer]

Most casinos don't let you take even money on a 6/5 game. They make you buy insurance separately.

[Three]

I was in reno doing game scouting there and saw a casino offer even money in 6/5 blackjack. How much of an advantage does the player get for taking even money in 6/5 blackjack? Or is there an advantage at all?

Take the even money rather than 6:5 you should have wonged out long before it isn't advantageous to do so.

[seriousplayer]

Take the even money rather than 6:5 you should have wonged out long before it isn't advantageous to do so.

Tthree, I was not playing the 6:5 blackjack game that was offer in reno. I just did an observation on the game. I found games in some casinos in Reno to change rapidly especially in the downtown area of Reno. For example, I been to the Sand Regency on April 2014 at that time they still offer double down on 9,10 and 11 on single deck game but when I was there this week the rule was already changed to double down on 10 and 11 only. However, the Current Blackjack News still list the Sands Regency to offer single deck games that double down on 9,10,and 11.

[moo321]

You should always take even money in a 6:5 game. You also probably shouldn't be playing 6:5 games...

[MJGolf]

Moses:
Insurance on 3-2 game is identical to "even money". If you bet $10; make BJ and take insurance.....you win $15 if dealer DOESN'T have BJ, too, and you lose your $5 insurance bet. If he DOES have BJ; you tie your BJ but win your insurance bet for an identical net win of $10. Why it's called "even money".

In 6-5, if you were to take insurance normally, you would win $12 on your BJ IF the dealer does NOT have BJ but lose your $5 insurance bet for a net win of $7. IF he DOES have BJ, you would tie your $10 bet but would double your $5 insurance wager for $10, for a net win of $10. Since unless counting, the dealer would more likely NOT have BJ, most of time your taking "even money" would result in a net loss to the casino of $3 (or overpayment TO you of $3, depending upon how you look at it). They are NOT going to give you that chance or opportunity. That's why they usually DON'T offer even money on BJ at 6-5 tables. So Moo is correct; always take even Money in a 6-5 game IF they offer it.

In 3-2 game, you would NEVER take even money for same reason UNLESS counting, because odds are the dealer does NOT have BJ more times than not, so you are giving up your EV in the long run to take it.

[DSchles]

Is there something about my first answer that you didn't like?

Don

[Three]

because odds are the dealer does NOT have BJ more times than not,

If you win 1/3rd of you insurance bets you are breaking even (insurance pays 2:1). You need a ratio less than 2 non ten value cards to every ten value card for the bet to break even. You start with a 36:16 for a single deck of cards I know you like to play SD). You need 4 cards removed before any T is removed to reach that. Each T you see requires 2 non-T's to balance it for the bet.

[RS]

That's a long brain freeze.

[Three]

I can't remember the last time I took insurance or even money on a min. bet.

I threw out a few for cover after making some insurance bets to save big bets the last of which was 2 terrible hands. I got "lucky " and won both of the min bet insurance bets at which point I started wondering how much cover value the insurance bets were really getting me. They might be thrown off the counter scent but now they may be thinking of even worse possibilities. LOL
You talk about being paranoid.