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    Thanks Three, I never paid any attention to that on 2D because I have never Wonged out on 2D while playing heads up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodarc View Post
    Well Blitz, that brings up a 2 weird storys.

    I first went to a different casino where I have been having some good luck after about a month of one good loss and several small losses or break evens. There was not ONE person at the bj tables in the afternoon. There was a 6D game open so I sat down. The deck was 1/3 already dealt. I asked for a shuffle and she asked the floor about it and he said his boss would be on his tail if he allowed it. I said ahhh no big problem then, don't worry about it and I just sat there. She asked if I was going to play and I said undoubtedly, you broke someone with that shoe or they wouldn't have left so I don't want to play a deck that just broke someone (just an excuse to get a shuffle). So, I just sat at the table, smoked a cig and didn't play. In a few I said I think I'll go find a fresh shoe somewhere else and got up and left.

    So I went to this other casino where I had done well Sunday and there was this 2D game that I have been playing. As Bigplayer says "When you're hot your hot" and this is how it started out. Playing heads up and I hit every single big bet and double down on big bets etc one right after the other. Then up walked the 'drug dealer' as I call him. He bought in for 1,000 which was all 20's. Started out betting 2 x 250 per hand and lost that in about 10 or 15 min and I was still hitting and pocketing chips left and right. He bought in for 800, again all 20's and that lasted about 10 or 15 min because he started betting 2x500 or so and he bought in for another 1000. This buy in had a few hundreds mixed in with it but it was still mostly all 20's. Couple of times right off the bat the count went very low so I made an excuse and left the table and let him play alone. Then I made a couple of index plays he didn't like and he said I was ruining the flow of the cards (even though he was betting 2x500 off the top and standing on 13 V 10 and never splitting or doubling anything except 10, 11 or a 9 v 3. Pit was standing there watching but paying no attention to me at all, they were just watching him so I just kept spreading. He made one more comment and I had been there 45 min and thought, this is a good time for me to excuse myself, so I colored up and left.

    Last night when I was trying to figure out how to sim partial Wongs, I plugged in my win on CVCX and the odds of it happening was 6.7% so it was a very good day and just luck to have a streak that hot.
    So when the "drug dealer" cashed into the game did you change up your game plan since he was playing two hands? I played a game similar to the one you described but the wins cushioned a loss on a 6D game I recently played. It's good that it was only a minimal loss on a 6D game that was slower than a snails pace and sucked because of it. On the 2D game I played everyone that cashed into the game walked away with a loss other than me and one other player. It's possible that we have crossed paths.

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    Hi Blitz

    When he was there I played 2 hands anytime the TC got to +2 but only 1 if less than that with minimum bet. Do you play in this area often?
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    Well email me at [email protected] when you happen this way and I'll buy you a cup of java
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigplayer View Post
    The game you're describing is terrible though and the only way to beat it is by playing it like a shoe game and almost always virtually heads up or the cut card effect will crush you.
    The cut card effect will be captured by the sims, is that correct?

    Bodarc, does your rounds per deck estimate account for your adding a second hand in positive counts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigplayer View Post
    The game you're describing is terrible though and the only way to beat it is by playing it like a shoe game and almost always virtually heads up or the cut card effect will crush you. The key round to skip will be the last 1 or 2 rounds in negative counts (particularly that extra round that you get due to the cut card effect).
    bigplayer

    I read your post and have done a little research to understand better. In reading about the cut card effect etc, I read blackjackincolor and noted that the biggest effect had to do with single deck games and also that when card counting the effect is negligible. Would you explain a little more if you have time because I always pay attention to every post you make and the sim says it is a good game if I can get that spread but you say no so I am a little confused.

    If I input a cut of 48 remaining into the sim for 2D, wouldn't the sim be playing the same as I would and wouldn't the SCORE etc reflect the cut card effect?

    Any thoughts would be appreciated
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    Hello Al

    No they don't. I don't think I would pay any attention to that computation. I was just trying to get a general idea. You'd need to take into account a probability distribution to determine how often you'd be playing 2 hands and take that into account. Forget my general ramblings.
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