Just count the cards I want

[Tjhendrix]

Sorry I have horrible grammar, I have been playing around with counting only the aces and 10 value cards and subtracting them from the grand total of the number of decks, what I mean is 24 x 6 or 2 or 4 you know I mean I then estimate the size of the deck left in the shoe if the deck high value I tend to adjust my basic strategy to hit less and try to get dealer bust I also use a martingale betting strategy that I raise the unit value so instead of play 5 and doubling I bet 15 and double if it's low I start to flat bet or sit out I carry a 1000 bankroll when I go I'm not gonna say I don't loose the bankroll but I will say I play everyday and when I win 350 I get up go home or I go home when only the 1000 is gone not what I won that day I have had more winning days than loosening in any given week and I made nice money last month and the month before that I just wanna see what the difference is between what I'm doing versus a card count with penetration cardhow would you get a true count basically the same educated guess

What are the problems with this way of playing

[Exoter175]

Sorry I have horrible grammar, I have been playing around with counting only the aces and 10 value cards and subtracting them from the grand total of the number of decks, what I mean is 24 x 6 or 2 or 4 you know I mean I then estimate the size of the deck left in the shoe if the deck high value I tend to adjust my basic strategy to hit less and try to get dealer bust I also use a martingale betting strategy that I raise the unit value so instead of play 5 and doubling I bet 15 and double if it's low I start to flat bet or sit out I carry a 1000 bankroll when I go I'm not gonna say I don't loose the bankroll but I will say I play everyday and when I win 350 I get up go home or I go home when only the 1000 is gone not what I won that day I have had more winning days than loosening in any given week and I made nice money last month and the month before that I just wanna see what the difference is between what I'm doing versus a card count with penetration cardhow would you get a true count basically the same educated guess

What are the problems with this way of playing

Everything.

[Tjhendrix]

Easy to say everything
Some logic is there I mean it's either me or the dealer getting the 10s and if I know half the deck has been dealt and the count is 80 there's a lot of 10s in the deck and if me or the other players don't have them dealer more than likely does I just believe that it's hard to win period and any edge is making educated guesses and any info I can take away from the what's played I can you use it's a rough system by far but 2 months strait 27 days each day I go for 2 to 6 hours And I'm still up after heavy losses 4 or 5 for times a month

My plan was to minimize the strings of losses and bet a higher than min when the 10s were in the deck I'm consistently addin to my win stack except for when i get to the table max which is close to the bank I brought with me if tap out I go home and come back with another grand 3 winning days breaks even

[22 Dreams]

what I mean is 24 x 6

Do you mean 20 x 6? You have the right idea, but the way you're going about it is mostly wrong.

Martingale is a problem. Even when you have an edge, your bets should be based on the advantage and your bankroll (all the money you're willing to lose, not just the $1000 you came to the casino with), not a betting system that prescribes doubling or lowering your bet based on wins and losses.

Since you're already counting some of the cards, why not learn a counting system?

Start with this book: http://www.qfit.com/book/index.htm

[metronome]

Thanks 22 Dreams, I too was wondering where the 24 came from....

[Tjhendrix]

Thanks 22 I was typing fast maybe that extra 4 cards a deck is my advantage I'm kidding I want to try a different management system to isn't so swingy after a string a 4 losses I betting hundreds of dollars but when the deck is high in 10s I hit a few more blackjack sand doubles which is the point of counting anyways I understand I'm just winning my money back unless I double or blackjack with a small profit but that adds up fast so I try to play as few hands as possible because I know that the martingale will fail the longer I play and I know it doesn't matter how long I wait eternal hands like I said I'm just trying to minimize the the losing streaks and grind out a few hundred a day believe me I've lost big a few days but over all so far I'm ahead nicely and still going

[Tjhendrix]

Thanks I'll put some time into the book and get back to you on what I get out of it

[22 Dreams]

Sounds good. Then we can escape the Disadvantage Forum.

[Tjhendrix]

Still is counting really that advantageous because really the dealer has just as much chance of getting better hands just like you an them having to hit below 17 when I don't has won as many times as I've lost stopping that streak and really the times that I tap out are the min bet play going for a run of 8 I usually stop loss at 5 losses if the deck has lot of tens after those losses I start over at 15 or if it's low in tens I take a break smoke use the bathroom something wait for the next shoe I can't convince anyone that this win all the time but if your taking in more money than you are losing that's basic business if

[22 Dreams]

the dealer has just as much chance of getting better hands just like you

True, but you get paid 3:2 on BJ and the dealer always has to hit 16 or less. You don't always have to hit. You'll learn a lot from the book.

[Tjhendrix]

Cool thanks

[ohbehave]

Still is counting really that advantageous because really the dealer has just as much chance of getting better hands just like you an them having to hit below 17 when I don't has won as many times as I've lost stopping that streak and really the times that I tap out are the min bet play going for a run of 8 I usually stop loss at 5 losses if the deck has lot of tens after those losses I start over at 15 or if it's low in tens I take a break smoke use the bathroom something wait for the next shoe I can't convince anyone that this win all the time but if your taking in more money than you are losing that's basic business if

Correct, counting cards is not highly advantageous, thats why you need know and use a proven counting system. The reason counting cards "works" is because you can make a fairly large number of wagers in a short amount of time at a small advantage so your expected value accumulates relatively quickly. A high edge in BJ is possible with some advanced techniques but not straight counting, if that was possible the casinos would shut down BJ altogether.